A
Uh-huh.
B
that, you know, because if that's what, if that's what the punishment is in that, in that instance, then you're always going to say, you know, not gui, you're, you're not going to want to have him have that cri-, uh, that punishment. So,
A
Yeah. But then when you're, when you're picked, see I was picked for another murder trial before --
B
Uh-huh.
A
-- oh, gosh and it's so hard because, you know, everybody is wanting to go on and get the sentence done, and if you're trying to hold out, you know, there's so much pressure on you and you've got to come up with a decision.
B
Well, especially with something where you have to f-, you have to find it beyond a reasonable doubt. You have to find whether they're guilty beyond a reasonable doubt and it's like, do you really feel that sure about,