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Um. I-, you know, in the past, I don't know, I don't know how old you are, but when I was, uh, in high school, it was the beginning of Vietnam and so forth. And many of my peers were being drafted.
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And I could see that many of them had conscientious objections to war or whatever. But I, I felt strongly then that even if they didn't feel like they could kill someone, or go into a military situation, that they could help the country in other ways. Be it cleaning out, uh, lots, in, in their neighborhood or,
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whatever kind of community or public service might be available. And I guess I see that as, as not so much a demand but, but a privilege. It's, it's kind of, uh, uh,