B
Yeah.
A
And I just was not ready for kids. I wanted to get out and work a little bit and I wanted to travel and stuff like that, which we did. And, uh, kids didn't fit in right then, but, it's getting more and more like that where there's more and more couples and, really, if you don't want the kids, then it's not the time to have, I don't care what anybody tells you.
B
Right.
A
And I think that more and more the attitude's getting that a way. Because that's like my daughter now, she says that, you know, maybe when she's thirty she might want a child then.
B
Yeah.
A
And, uh, even though I'd like to have grandchildren, I can see her point.