B
Yeah, I guess there, other than things like the stock market or mutual funds, there's really not much of a return on anything these days.
A
Exactly. Right now. Yeah, it's a bad time, you know.
B
Yeah, the interest is so low. I mean it, it's nice for people buying homes but --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- for older people who have money --
A
Uh-huh.