A
Uh-huh.
B
So again, it never really penalizes,
A
Right. That will,
B
the company doing the wrong. They can go right on doing the same old thing they always used to.
A
Huh.
B
And if, if they know some practice is wrong, you know, I'm not talking about your isolated occurrences, I'm talking more about the, you know, the thing that they know, maybe they're willfully manufacturing something that they know is hurting people out there and they continue to do it even after they become aware --