A
Is that just family's lack of priority, anymore, maybe yes,
B
-- that's just,
A
we get so involved in our work lives and just,
B
Well, yeah.
A
social lives and so forth.
B
Yeah, that's, uh, yeah, I think that's some of it. But, you know, I have, uh, I, I, it's just the way, you know, I think society is now, is that we are not, we do not have the extensive family we used to.