B
-- versus what our health care is, our health care keeps increasing, increasing, increasing and not to the same rate as our pay.
A
Right, right.
A
I know no matter what you do about that, yeah, unless you're like a Senior V P or something which I am not.
B
Right. Me either.
A
Yeah, I know. It's, um, I don't know. And then when you interview for a job or something sometimes people, um, expect the benefits to take the place of a certain salary level.
B
Uh-huh.