A
Exactly.
B
-- someone blows the whistle and says, oh, this is not ethical and yes I did it too.
A
Yeah.
A
Well, that's exactly what happens in government all the time. They blow the whistle on each other. Oh, I hear that you're doing this, I've done it but oh boy, and it's not going to get out. Ex-, yeah, e-, exactly. It's, uh, there's no --
B
Yeah, we just had,
A
-- secrets in the government. Uh --