A
life of a person. Uh, it doesn't matter if you have money or no mone-, or all the money in the world, um, you would,
B
You should still be,
A
Everybody should be able to have surgeries that will save their lives or things that will make their life more comfortable verses than just the rich people that can afford to pay or to work for corporations that have wonderful health benefits. Um, I think if, uh, they looked at it as a way of business helping out financially for universal health care and, uh, individuals, um, helping out in some sort of way whether it be taxes or some how. But, uh, the expenses right now for health care, um, are just unreal.
B
Well, they really are even for, even when you're not talking about surgery. If you're just talking about basic care, we've --
A
Yes.
B
-- we've got four children and, you know --