B
Uh-huh.
A
And, uh, uh, I also think that one of the problems and, actually, I don't think this, I think this is a cultural problem. The, uh, problem with public education is really, uh, really a problem with the culture. And, I guess my evidence for that is the school districts in places like California, for example, where only a minority of the taxpayers have children in school and you can't get a tax levy passed. Uh, people are, uh, reluctant to pass, uh, school tax levies even, uh, when the money is needed or would be well spent because it's, uh, they don't have kids in the schools.
B
Right.
A
I think that's a, a loss of civic virtue and a loss of, uh, uh, the cultural attitude that we used to have that education was first even if it wasn't our kids. I think that's, uh, that's the principal problem is that, uh, people no longer see it as, uh, as their problem and there's an immediate problem.
B
Right. It troubles me too tha-, that the priority seems to be with my particular purse strings rather than the public good and by definition, for some of us, at least, the public good includes having an educated populace and then --
A
Right.