B
And, uh, so, but I haven't really had any bad problems with credit cards. There's, you know, they have, uh, wonderful features, they're there when you need them.
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
You know, like in emergencies, or whatever.
A
And then they have bad drawbacks, too.
B
Yeah. It's, it's awfully easy.
A
I mean high interest, it's like paying twice.