B
Too many chiefs and not enough Indians.
A
Yeah. So.
B
Yeah. I don't know, that can be, that, that can really slow you down.
A
Yeah. Well, that's the way it works. I mean, that's, that's why they're having problems. I mean, everyone's a manager and,
B
I didn't realize that.
A
Yeah. I mean, it's like, it's like the people that actually do the work there --