A
Uh-huh, which is very difficult to do.
B
And, and there's no way that you can get them, unless it's by force.
A
Uh-huh.
B
You know. And then you can put him on trial.
A
Obviously, he's not going to turn himself in.
B
No, no, I think, I think he'd rather commit suicide than turn himself in,