A
It's, it's hard topic because is, is, is it doing a good job or a bad job and you got to divide it two different categories whether you live in the city or whether you live in a more rural place like I do.
B
Yeah, and are you talking about public schools being lower level, high school level or --
A
Well, public school all the way up --
B
-- state school.
A
-- kindergarten all the way up to, uh, uh, high school.
B
Okay, but you're excluding high-level education.