B
from, from teachers, professors and so forth, and then after a year or two move on to a little bit bigger pond where, where, when they had a little more self-confidence built up, oh, yes, I can do this, oh, I've done this before, it's just in a bigger setting,
A
Right.
B
and so maybe to me the key would be wh-, what is a chi-, the, the students needs,
A
Uh-huh.
B
but it's these other things that you and I are, are keying off on,
A
Uh-huh.