A
and, in spite of,
B
yeah, you, it's, it's hard sometimes at work because, you know, people say, oh, we're taking a cruise, we're going here, we're going there, you know --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- because they have a lot more money. And a lot of them decide just not to have children.
A
Yes.
B
It's, it's amazing, they either have one or none.