B
Yeah, that's, around here in a lot of places that's the way it is --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- I mean, there, there are ex, expected, uh, dress codes --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- and the people need to follow that. I think, uh, years ago, I used to be far more, uh, committed to the idea of, of a dress code --
A
Uh-huh.