A
Right.
B
That kind.
A
Right, just like the old alcohol idea and --
B
Uh-huh.
A
-- I think people, uh, I think when you have haves and have nots, you're always going to find people that are too lazy to figure a way to earn money and find it's easier if you can get a gun to go out and hold something up --
B
Uh-huh.