A
Uh-huh.
B
-- it's kind of like, oh, I guess it's kind of like, kind of like cigarette smoking, you know. It, it could go on for years and years until they start to see some results and people can actually, actually say, Yeah, it's, it's, it's doing, doing some damage --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- and something's got to be done. Um, there's, you know, there's a lot of things like that. It, you can, uh, you can pound on something for a long time before it finally breaks, but until it breaks, you don't really know that there, you were doing anything to it.
A
Yeah, exactly.
B
But, uh,