A
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
B
and, and we didn't really know what the agenda was going to be --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- uh, and I think, you know, it got off to a really radical, it has a radical fringe to it that, uh, I've sort of backed away from.
A
I think all things get started sometimes in that manner.
B
Yeah.