B
Yeah, yeah, and so.
A
Uh, we had started out like that and, um, I think that was really ideal, uh.
B
Yeah, I do to, I agree, but then when you start having two of them, it's, you know, a little bit tougher,
A
It's, yeah.
B
because you've got to make a little more money, to make that payoff and stuff.
A
Yeah, yeah, it's difficult, but.