A
And it's always been military and it's always been, and that's, that's always been the way of the world. Don't you think.
B
Which I think that that's not the, the way the majority of the people over there really are.
A
Yeah. So it's really hard, when you see the leaders, compared to the people.
B
But I think in a, in a way the war, uh, I think in a way all, the involvement over there too, though, has shown a lot of people that there are a lot of people that don't follow what those few are doing. And there are a lot of people who are good people.
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
You know, there's, and I, I think we may not have ever have seen that without some of these, uh, newspeople being in there in the broadcasts and the, the, uh, soldiers leaving, um, you know, surrendering and,