B
But I don't know. It's a difficult situation I think and some, something has to be done because I definitely think it's, it, it really plays, reeks havoc with your quality of life when, you know, you can see it's going on around you but then when, once it finally affects you then, then it really starts to bother you.
A
Uh-huh, uh-huh. Uh,
B
But it seems, I mean, people have moved like out of the city because they want to get away from the crime and so they tend to spread the cities farther and farther out but, you know, it's only a matter of time before, you know, it still catches up with them. You can't really run away from the problem --
A
Yeah.
B
-- and something, you know, something has to be done but just that too many people argue about how to fix it.
A
Yeah. I know when I lived in Oakland, it was just that, uh, like, I definitely wouldn't go into certain areas of, of the city by myself.