A
-- they have to see for themselves --
B
Uh-huh.
A
-- now of course this might be after they've gone through their teen years, I don't know what their thought is on what age that this should be done.
B
Oh, yeah, I would think so, like right after, um, high school --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- you know, even if it was the, the, their, um, that summer right after high school --