A
He came to the conclusion, plastics is actually one of the biggest problems in landfills cause it's, it's low weight, but it's high volume so it takes up a lot of space --
B
Right.
A
-- and there's almost no energy, there's very little energy value in actually doing a lot of the recycling, but there is a lot of energy in it if you can burn it and use it, produce electricity.
B
Huh.
A
So his solution was to burn plastic. Collect it and burn it.
B
Well, it's carbon so that makes sense, like a carbon fuel of some sort, but --