A
-- uh, selling out your country.
B
It's not, it's not enough just to lock them up forever.
A
Uh, no, it's got to be something that is going to cost them, because we never lock anybody up forever.
B
Not often.
A
Not very often at all. We've got these guys in New York that, uh, I'm sure you heard about, the ones that killed, uh, the gentleman that came from Utah to watch the tennis --
B
Yeah.