B
Uh-huh, uh-huh. I suppose that whenever companies can avoid, um, benefits, it's to the, to, to the benefit of the company --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- and at least, you know, financially in the short run, but I would think they would get a much greater turnover and that people would be dissatisfied
A
Yeah. That's what I, what I think the-, they should be able, they should be able to judge their benefits on how happy their employees are and how much profit they're making instead of trying to cut everything down and then have everybody be unhappy and, and have a constant turnover of people.
B
I mean, sure, the payroll is lower that way, but I would assume that the productivity is way down, also.
A
Yeah, the productivity and the training costs, if they have to train the same employee, a new employee every six months, then I don't see how they can save money.