B
That's what I hear.
A
So it's, uh,
B
Yeah, I, I think, you know, don't you feel like most people have given up on the rehabilitation idea?
A
I get the feeling that a lot of people have. I'm not convinced that I have.
B
Yeah.
A
Uh, see, I mean, my mom taught English as a second language and, and she was dealing mostly with people that were, were in on drug crimes and, uh,