A
Well, people that are, um, have received sentences in jail, they have, uh, some of them are going out and doing, uh, they have to go out and do public service --
B
Uh-huh.
A
-- activities --
B
Right.
A
-- which to me is, is good.
B
Oh, yeah, oh yeah, I agree with you. This is something that, um, like you say, is it's character building --