A
Uh-huh.
B
Uh, not near enough. I know there's still a long way to go especially in top management.
A
Yes, I agree.
B
You're not seeing, you know, looking at T I, you see them in management, but you're not seeing them up there as V P -s.
A
Right.
B
And I have a sister that's an attorney in Oklahoma City, and I know the company that she was with, uh, the women didn't h-, have near the positions, the levels that the men attorneys had.