B
-- and when it wasn't feasible, well, that was understandable, but --
A
Yeah.
B
-- uh, we've always tried to spend time to talk and, uh, have some time, together time and we sat around the table, we didn't sit in front of a T V or --
A
Wow, that's great.
B
-- that kind of thing. So I think that's been important, because we do have a close family --
A
Uh-huh.