B
And hers isn't a social thing as much as it's a stage they go through, but whenever something happens it's, you made me hit that, you made me do this, and so I try to tell her, MUMBLEx, everything isn't always somebody else's fault. You know, you have to watch where you're going, and --
A
Sure.
B
-- and so it's what you just said, kind of hits home to me, just through her.
A
Yeah, and, another thing I think has changed quite a bit is, uh, the roles that men and women play. That's really in the last thirty years has changed significantly.
B
Um, in your opinion, good or bad, or both?
A
Well, both, you know, there's some great things that, uh, have come about with more equality, but I think that also, I don't know what's causing society to have so many broken families and things like that, because I think that's bad for us.