B
It is and, and I don't know if it's, uh, the family, you know, thing where they're not bonding anymore, where mothers are working all the time and,
A
Uh-huh,
B
the kids aren't getting the attention that they need, or the television.
A
Uh-huh.
B
And I, I really think that we're, we're falling by the wayside with not incarcerating these people.
A
Oh, I agree. I think that people are getting off too easy. They're getting, they're getting paroled too easily.