A
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And if you're alienated, I mean I see people at supposedly really good universities who are just having psychological problems,
B
Yeah.
A
that, you think this isn't sinking in.
B
Well, I, I've seen more graduates from M I T and that,
A
Uh-huh.
B
being, I work in a, in a labora-, an Air Force laboratory and so we've got a lot of, uh, M I T graduates that are in there and they are the biggest collection of screwed up people that, I think I've ever run into.