A
since it was first offense and he'd been convicted three times before, you know,
B
Oh.
A
and, and the jury was very upset and my husband came home, a home, very upset, I mean, he felt like that, that they had been tricked, you know,
B
Right.
A
and so something, I wonder if a judge didn't have control of that if some of that would change, you know.
B
Yeah, the judge might know or at least it, it wouldn't hurt to switch over there and see if it worked any better, if it didn't we can come back for something else or,