B
Uh-huh.
A
-- but it seems that the criminal element are the ones that are using them. Uh, aside from domestic disputes, husbands shooting wives or vice versa.
B
Uh-huh.
A
But these individuals, if they have a gun with them, I think that the, the sentence should be even longer than if they don't.
B
I don't, I don't agree with the length,
A
Well,