B
Yeah.
A
so, and, and plus he's getting on in his years now. He's, he's not that old, but he's getting to the point where he needed an extra boost,
B
Yeah.
A
to, to do something like that. And, uh, it's really, it's, it's, uh, hard work. I couldn't imagine taking lumber, raw lumber and trying to make something out of it. He d,
B
That would be really t, you know, like say the,
A
He dowels everything.