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Is it MUMBLEx?
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Pardon me --
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MUMBLEx?
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-- uh, no, uh, oh, it'll, it'll come to me, but he wrote, he wrote the ILLUSION, and A BRIDGE OVER TI-, A BRIDGE TO FOREVER. Those are MUMBLEx mind expanding books.
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Um.
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His concepts are so different than what I would have ever dreamed of. I can't think of what his name is right, right off the bat, though. But, uh, they, they were fun. They were real just books for fun.