A
Yea-, that's true. It is overcrowded because there's so much drug, uh, problem with the people on drugs because that ha-, they, with the drugs they're, they're robbing and killing and, uh, that's why it's filled the prisons up so much I think.
B
Uh, it doesn't, it doesn't help them any at all --
A
No, it doesn't.
B
-- and, of course, your court system when you get into the appeals, I don't believe criminal is in a court by itself. And the whole judicial system is backed up with a lot of junk that shouldn't be in there.
A
Yeah, that's true. With all these lawsuits and people suing people over ridiculous things but,
B
We've gotten into a very litigious, uh, type of life.