A
Yeah.
B
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A
MUMBLEx for example, you test a chip. It can't last seven years but it can last five. I B M says let's throw it away. Leading Edge will say we'll buy it from you.
B
Okay.
A
And so that's, I mean, they're still around I think.
B
Yeah. I've seen, well I've seen them around anyway. You know MUMBLEx.