B
Uh-huh, definitely.
A
-- on, on clothing and stuff, uh, I know.
B
Towards each other.
A
Yeah, I, I, I know a lot of the things that, that we wear, men wear nowadays were, would have been considered, uh, feminine, uh, many years ago, but.
B
Uh-huh, yeah.
A
I know, it's been, it was hard for me at first, but now I kind of like, you know, a lot of the bright colors.