A
Uh-huh.
B
Um, does, does he ever, uh, refinish furniture or anything like that?
A
Oh, yeah, sometimes, but it's not one of my favorite things, especially from the vapors, and we had, uh, an entertainment center we did last year. Uh, we bought it at an, unfinished, uh, furniture place --
B
Uh-huh. Pretty time consuming, isn't it?
A
Oh, yeah.
B
But, it's g-, it's nice to have it when you're done, I mean, looks pretty.