B
So I mean in the sense that we've come a long way, yes, but we've sacrificed a lot to get there.
A
Yeah, I, I agree.
B
And, uh, I really think that if, uh, like after the second World War when women went to work in factories and all that, that was like out of necessity, because the men weren't here anymore.
A
Uh-huh.
B
But then it got to be a point where they got some independence.
A
And they just enjoyed the income, the extra.