A
Yes, uh-huh.
B
-- and so they get real frustrated when we try to do that, and.
A
Yes, and then if you want to play something on the little kids ' level, then the older kids get real bored, and they want to do something else. So.
B
Yeah.
A
Yeah, I can, I can relate to that. Um, do you feel that the current trend in families spending time together is a positive one or a negative one?
B
I think it's improving, actually.