A
Uh-huh.
B
and when they get into a real competitive system they just say, oh well, what the heck,
A
Uh-huh.
B
and, uh, tend not to, you know, do too awful well MUMBLEx.
A
Right, I talked to, a guy the other day and he is now in, in a program that's trying to get him out of high school because he, he fell back several years ago and he's going to, he, he will have gone to school five years.
B
Yeah.