A
Yeah.
B
-- because this place gets very cold very soon.
A
Yeah, we've, uh,
A
gone through that, uh, I remember my parents didn't do all those type things, and so I made a special effort with my children to do things like that. And even now with my grandchildren, I feel it's a very important thing to be done.
B
Right, because if, uh, kids don't look up to you, or, or, ca, can't feel they can spend time with you, they're going to find someone else --
A
Yeah.