A
All right.
B
Yes, I think we're terribly taxed. I, I think the Republicans have taxed us just as much as the Democrats, and I don't think there's a change between one party than the other. Uh, I think we get a lot back, but not as much as we should.
A
Uh, I guess what I feel about it is that it's so mismanaged that it, there's got to be something. When, when we pay so much for the, for the debt, instead of using the money for where --
B
Right.
A
-- it ought to go, it, it's just, it's ridiculous. What kills me is when they had a chance to, to, uh, put into ac-, action the, the g-, the Glen-, Rub-, what is it, uh, the act where they had to cut everything across the board --
B
The Gramm, the Gramm Rudman Act. Yeah.