B
Yeah, yeah.
A
And, I guess even back to Kennedy, as a matter of fact, I guess Kennedy may be the one that actually started the thing, or was, you know, really interested in things like that.
B
Uh-huh.
A
I just don't hear much about it anymore. Like I say, I don't even know what programs are, are even ongoing now, you know.
B
I don't either. That's one,
A
Anyway, it's a tough question.