A
So I don't think that they deserve anything less.
B
Yeah, right.
A
It's just, I don't, I don't know, I just,
B
Uh-huh. I was just saying that way, what they're saying is that they can't get people to turn themselves in then. And so, we have to go through a trial then to prove the person's guilty.
A
Uh-huh, and that costs money, yeah.
B
And perhaps we can and perhaps we can't and so the guy might get off.