A
Well, that's good, that's good.
B
So, and he did, he served better than we did, you know, he gained, he actually gained from it, you know, sure we gained from it,
A
Uh-huh.
B
because we were allowed to continue our employment and,
A
Uh-huh.
B
continue our family but I think in the long run he gained from it just being somewhere where we learned something,