B
Yeah, and, and the question is, does the government make a difference. If they'll mostly leave him alone, uh, and I think that's the difficulty they, that, that we have that, uh, it, it reality doesn't make, uh, doesn't make any difference if he has no income. And apparently even some of our alleged, uh, Central American leaders that, uh, are mostly democratic have done some pretty terrible things, so it's, uh,
A
Yeah, well, yo-, in looking, bu-, if you look at the region in, in, uh, to their detriment they came from, uh, this, uh, hundreds of years of Spanish control and the, and the Spaniards have, uh, horrible history of corrupt, uh, government, greedy, uh, rulers who have been, uh, manipulating, manipulating their public for their own, their own good. I mean, if you go back to the kings and, and the, the conquistadors coming in and, and the hor, incredibly horrible things they did to the, uh, the native tribes, I mean they make, uh, they make the things that Custer did look like, uh, like trivial. And, uh, you get,
B
It is, it is interesting, that, that, you know we, we look at the exploitation and, and, and then we accuse some other people of exploiting them and, and Americans have, uh, have a pretty good reputation of exploiting, you know we basically the Panama Canal we went in and, and took it.
A
Oh, absolutely and, you know we set up ...
B
and we stole it fair and square,
A
An, I mean, Ted, Teddy Roosevelt didn't have the reputation, speak softly and carry a big stick for, uh, for nothing and, uh, Right.