A
Uh-huh.
B
-- on a certain area of our home growing up, and so he had to paint the outside all the time. and, um, I just don't think, you know, that there was that big problem.
A
It wasn't a big deal for them.
B
No,
A
I don't know.
B
but to us, you know, we're going, oh, we're so glad we have a brick home, all we have is like trim around the windows or something, and --