A
Yes, my father was in the C C C MUMBLEx.
B
He was in that? I mean, you know, uh, it's not the best thing in the world, but, uh, it gave them something to do.
A
Well, it seems that there's some things like the, uh, the programs at least just go around and, and, and clean up streets and, and, and pick up trash and even aluminum cans and some of these kinds of things.
B
R-, or go into the, the more depressed areas and help repair the houses.
A
Yeah, in fact, we, we helped with, uh, oh, Help To Help Humanities, and that was a, that was a good experience, but you take the kids out and, and a lot of the buildings in downtown areas that, that either need demolishing, or need fixing up, so --
B
Uh-huh.