A
And, uh, if he thinks there's something that I need to know about he'll say, you know, here you need to read this and, uh --
B
Uh-huh.
A
-- I don't know it, I kind of quit reading it, oh, I don't know several years ago when the kids were teenagers. It just seems like I was so busy all the time, and if I wanted to read, I wanted to read something light and relaxing and --
B
Yeah.
A
-- and, uh, things like that and so I coul, and it got so depressing.
B
Yeah.