B
Yes.
A
-- you know, it's not just a matter of, um, of, you know, did this guy rip off this guy, and it's just a matter of interpreting a contract, it's sort of a matter of, um, you know, sometimes getting into very technical issues, and I wonder if, uh, if there's really, um, if the system works adequately in, in educating the jurors about, uh, whatever, um, you know, issue is under discussion.
B
I, I don't think that they, they, they educate them enough to, to really know what's going on.
A
In, in the case you were involved in, you said it was just sort of a bank matter of some kind. So.
B
Yeah, the, the bank was suing them for, uh, because they went to get the, the trailer --
A
Yeah.