B
And, uh, it, if, uh, no matter what they do in the, the classroom, if they go home at night and, you know, it's all totally undone, uh.
A
Uh-huh.
B
The, the thing that, uh, uh, that Karen, my wife, has, has run into so often is that you run into a group of kids that are going to succeed no matter what, no matter how bad their teachers are,
A
Right, right.
B
no matter what a lousy system they're in, or anything else,
A
Uh-huh.