A
Right.
B
It was constantly, no, I don't want him,
B
to explore anything. He might, uh, he might hurt himself.
A
So do you think that, I mean, do you think that that was in a way though, good ob-, good objectivity that, that doesn't really, that's not a correct English but MUMBLEx, you know --
A
-- in a sense, you see what I'm saying though. From a mother's standpoint, I mean in a way, i-, it was quote and unquote good ob-, objectivity.
B
I think it worked out very, very well. Because what he learned to do by the time he was --