B
Yeah.
A
a stick, whatever it is, to commit a crime with,
B
Yeah.
A
and it's the honest citizens like ourselves that are responsible about use of guns, uh, we can handle it but there's an element that can't.
B
Yeah and it's, you know, it's got to the point now where even our, our police departments and our D E A agents and everything have to carry automatic weapons because everybody that's in drug trafet-, trafficking has got them.
A
They have got them outgunned.