B
If my husband golfs, you know, he'll do it during nap time, things like that where they're not really missing the presence, you know.
A
Right.
B
And, and we do a lot of family things together. We're, we're kind of going the other direction this weekend. We're planning a trip, just he and I. This is the first time we've gone anywhere without the kids --
A
Well that's good too.
B
-- since she was born four and a half years ago.
A
Yeah, that's good that way too.