A
Right.
B
-- to get, to, to put these people back in society, but prepare them first.
A
Exactly. But that, the pro-, the problem is so incredibly complex. I have a friend who works on the pardon and patr-, paro-, paroles and she interviews,
B
Uh-huh.
A
inmates all the time that are coming up for parole.
B
Uh-huh.