A
Yeah, you know, enough for a phone call and that's about all.
B
Yeah.
A
But, uh, other than that, that's the, that's the way I use them. I know some people that uses them so bad that every one of them that they've got, they c, they can't charge any more,
A
you know, and I think that's terrible.
B
Yeah, because it's really, it helps your, if you have good credit, you know, it helps you in the long run when you want to go make a --
A
Oh, yeah.