A
We're in the sub-, I'm in the suburb of Cleveland and I'm about, uh, fifteen miles, probably, from downtown Cleveland, something like that. And Cleveland is located right on Lake Erie and prior to this, we were fifty miles west from here. So we were right on the lake. And Cleveland isn't all as bad as what you've heard.
B
Oh, what's that,
A
And you do find people, uh, into the crafts and the things that, uh, various things for spare time, but, I have never heard and I have actually never run into anyone into the china painting and I'm just intrigued with it.
B
If you ever start, be sure and start with a large piece that you can, I mean a large flat plate. Um, that way you can get the feel of, you're not cramped on these smaller objects.
A
Right, where you're getting into the delicate work.
B
That's right.