B
Uh-huh. I mean, I, I tend to agree with you. I think, uh, what I would like to see is, number one, completely getting rid of these victimless crimes. Uh, there's no reason to enforce those and spend time and money doing it --
A
Right.
B
-- and, and worry about these things where people are getting hurt. And I think one of the big things that you can do is, to increase deterrence is, uh, if someone is found guilty of a, uh, felony level offense, they lose their citizenship. And they lose their constitutional rights.
A
Uh-huh.
B
You know, and just a lot of things that we're trying to worry about, you know, protecting these people from, we just don't protect them.
A
I know like in my wife's case, they made her feel like the criminal.