B
Uh-huh.
A
The interesting thing about it is is that from a, uh, uh, an economy standpoint or in economics, I, I thinks it's, I think it's poor, poor, uh, economics to, to carry all that consumer debt --
B
Yeah.
A
-- at least from a tax standpoint, so. It's interesting that, that the American public is encouraged to incur all that debt and then next year none of it will be deductible, and this year it's ten percent or so.
B
Yeah, uh.
A
It's, uh, it's interesting that, that, uh, they encourage us to do things,