B
I thought,
A
but,
B
it was the other way around. They were always having to meet in the catacombs and all this, so all the persecution that they're sort of use to it, it's been,
A
Uh.
B
sort of like, you know.
A
But, but see, but I don't agree with that because the Catholic religion, as far as through the ages has been the rule, so to speak. You know, they are the ones that set, that set a lot of the rules and they are the ones that do keep the people down,