B
Uh-huh.
A
You know, like the P C X T, A T, and the P S one, P S two things, you know, and so. It's just that you have to always compete and, uh, Mackintosh took a lot of the market from a lot of schools.
B
Yeah.
A
Because of, of their, you know, you can work with it a lot easier.
B
Yeah. That's true.
A
So, that's what they're trying to do. Oh, well,