A
-- they kept doing, they kept putting off doing that. Why did they do that? That's exactly what they needed to do to get their act together.
B
Yeah, well I think they spend too much. They, they spend too much on themselves, too, the, the,
A
Oh, yeah, I think so too.
B
A lot of the, the taxes gets back to the members of the Congress and everything all running for twenty years, rather than.
A
Yeah, well. Things like mailings. They don't use any kind of restraint on some of these things. They just think once they get there that they can do just anything. No, they don't, they don't try to, uh --
B
No, you're right.