B
Yeah, well, she's usually in bed by this time, but she's staying up late tonight. But, yeah, I want to have a relationship with her. You know, my dad was a very traditional dad, and when I was a child I didn't really know my dad very well, and I miss that. And I want,
A
That's the thing, if woman's role, like we said, if women's roles change drastically, men's roles will, too.
B
Yeah, but men have to be convinced of that.
A
And a lot of it's for the better. Some of the, some of the women's roles, I think, are almost for the worse, because we're losing out on some things, going back to work, but I think if we can, if we can expand the men's roles at the same time, like you're taking care of your child, and your dad probably didn't very often --
B
No.
A
-- I know mine almost never did ...