B
Uh-huh.
A
Some, he didn't look that stupid. Why didn't he pay his taxes? You know.
B
Right. Uh-huh.
A
In a way, it's almost like he had so much debt that, uh, filing bankruptcy was a way to get out of all of it --
B
Right.
A
-- you know. So. Do you file federal or joint income tax,