A
-- it's a much different, we have, you know, you can't just, just hope for abstinence.
B
No, I don't, I think that's stupidity on parents ' part. I mean --
A
Yeah.
B
-- that's, sex is rampant, and it always will be, and --
A
Yeah.
B
-- and I think, too, noticing the kids, that the fourth and fifth graders, which is what my son is --