A
-- because it's not so reflective and, and glassy colored, and it, uh, turned out real, real well.
B
Seems like, uh, I've, we've done some remodeling of some, uh, rental houses that we have --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- and it appears as though that, uh, oh, in the fifties or sixties when some of these houses were built, uh, they used a lot of, uh, semigloss type enamel for ceiling paints --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- and that was a little difficult to cover with today's paints,