B
Yeah.
A
-- um, software on that, to, uh, to do figures and to look at things, you know, see how they work.
B
Right. That sounds interesting.
A
Uh-huh.
B
Um, does, does he ever, uh, refinish furniture or anything like that?
A
Oh, yeah, sometimes, but it's not one of my favorite things, especially from the vapors, and we had, uh, an entertainment center we did last year. Uh, we bought it at an, unfinished, uh, furniture place --