A
And maybe there aren't, you know,. Maybe they don't apply for the job.
B
I don't know. I don't, I don't know how many go on and get a P H D in engineering.
A
Right. Right. Which could be, you know, part-, partially cultural anyway.
B
That could be. That's true.
A
So that it might be circularly being the same problem of, of expecting not to get hired for the good jobs anyway,
B
Uh-huh.