A
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
B
-- for, I had, I had an American Express, American Express Gold, an Optima, all the different department stores, um, two Visas, two MasterCards.
A
Oh, gee.
B
I mean, I had, any time anybody would, you know, send me an application, you know, preapproved or whatever, I went, I took it, and it really ended up getting us in some real serious trouble.
A
Oh, sure.
B
Um, because, see, the more credit cards you have, the more people offer them to you.