B
and that they've shown, that it, uh, to begin with, apparently it does cost more,
A
Huh-uh.
B
but, once they get started, it's really, it saves them money in the end, and it cuts down on the end product that has to be dealt with some other way.
A
Huh-uh.
B
And if they would all, that's what, that's what we want done. Is, we want industry to take, you know, more responsibility in taking care of it.
A
Well, um, individual companies and things are so selfish,