B
Yeah, exactly.
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That's the sort of upside to the deficit.
B
It's a sort of a piece of luck.
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That's the upside to the recession.
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Yeah, um. I don't know, what kind of things do you think can be done in, in, uh, in the long term?
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MUMBLEx Well, can be done or will be done are two different things. Um, at various places to look for, for cutting the budget, first of all I consider more defense cuts than are already planned --