A
Have, uh, you said you did it in the High Sierras. Uh, do you ever, you know, just vacation someplace where you strictly backpack?
B
Oh, yeah, yeah. Uh, not recently because, you know, like the Boy Scouts makes it so that I go like once a month, you know.
A
Uh-huh.
B
Someplace. But, uh, there's, uh, some, some stuff that I want to do with like Sierra Club and go down to Grand Canyon or something like that. So, you know, they have lots of tours where they get a bunch of people together and --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- off you go. Which seems kind of reasonable because that means you don't have to take twenty thirteen year olds with you, which seems a, a, just a tad more relaxing.