A
-- you know, uh, as you're talking like police and stuff like that it's definitely a tough job to do.
B
Yeah, I think it's, crime has gone, got a lot worse in the last --
A
Oh, yeah, I agree.
B
-- last ten, fifteen years, and maybe that has a lot to do with it.
A
Yeah, I, I definitely think that has gotten a lot worse, and you know, I, I think there's, to me there seems to be a little bit of a decline in the family values.
B
Yeah, that's true.