B
Well, the smart half was don't pay it for consumables, don't, you know, if you can't afford to go to a restaurant and eat out and pay cash, don't put it on a credit card --
A
That's right.
B
-- you know, and, and so that, that is the smart half.
A
Uh-huh.
B
But, uh, and I can remember before we had kids, we did that a lot, but it was no biggie --
A
Uh-huh.