A
Yeah, no, neither do I.
A
I think it should be completely optional and --
B
Yeah.
A
-- you know.
B
I don't think that, some people I don't think have, uh, a year in them to volunteer if you know what I mean. They're not worth it.
A
Yeah, they're not worth a year. Or some people unfort-, just, just can't even afford it,