B
-- with the family members. Uh, it's, it's difficult for many families, especially in the case of, uh, of Alzheimer's and, and, uh, some of the more degenerative diseases to, uh, say, uh, uh, leave them, to have them at home, because then the family becomes completely, uh --
A
They're captive.
B
-- exactly. Yeah, and, and did, did you experience that with your, with your father or not?
A
Uh, we had a, at one stage we had care somewhat like, like what you're talking about. We had the Visiting Nurses program --
B
Uh-huh.
A
-- and they sent somebody in, and it, it was a, a nominal charge that this, uh, it started out that the lady would come in I think three times a week and eventually got up to the point where they were coming by every day.