B
Although the insurance we had was good, uh, when Thomas was younger. A lot of the stuff had to be paid up front and then you were reimbursed. So it was nice when you'd get a couple of hundred dollar check from the,
B
insurance, but in the meantime you had to put out the money first.
A
Yeah, yeah.
B
But,
A
Well, that, that's, that's hard.
B
Yeah, it is.