A
Uh-huh.
B
-- than like for graduate school. Uh, when I, when I wanted to go to an undergraduate institution, I was looking for something that was, you know, rather small and easy to get around, you know.
A
Uh-huh.
B
And what I would, what I thought would be easy to get through.
A
Yeah what you thought, huh.
B
Yeah. And, and, uh, my choice of graduate schools was, uh, you know, it changed a whole lot. I, I got to where I, I wanted to, uh, graduate with a little, you know, with a name behind me, rather than, uh --