A
whereas in the past it was seen as, you know, whoever was the head of the, the communist party was seen as, you know, untouchable.
B
Yeah. I thi, yeah, the thing that keeps happening is happening so fast and so, uh, dramatic that you almost think, now wait a minute, you know, we're getting stuck into something here, you know, if,
A
Uh-huh.
B
if somebody's about to, to clobber you, the first thing they do is sort of say, well, you know, we're, we're ashamed, we're not going to do that anymore.
A
Exactly.
B
And, uh,, um, you know, I'd, I'd like to think that that isn't true but I, I, you know, the evidence is that, uh, you know, he's, he's let some, some stuff go, you know, the east German situation.