B
Right.
A
really should have some better way where people who understand both the circumstances and the complex issues involved, should handle cases like that.
B
Yeah, you know, some MUMBLEx I don't, you always have the option, now in criminal I guess you always have a jury, but in civil cases you have the option of whether you want a jury or not.
A
Oh, is that right?
B
Yeah, and in some incidences I think they ought to, ought not to have a jury,
A
Yeah.