B
you hear. The people who, um, have serious problems, I mean, we have, um, really I guess we're kind of lucky. We really only know of one, uh, young man who, uh, who's a fam-, they go to our church,
A
Uh-huh.
B
and it's the son and so on, and he was friends with my children um, and he's really the only one that I know of personally who got himself really messed up, um, ha, having been involved with drugs. But I know of a number of other people who have, you know, gotten all messed up.
A
Uh-huh.
B
Most of these are young people. I work in the education system and so I have a little more contact with that. But, um, the effect that it's had on this young man's life is so dramatic that it's heartbreaking --
A
Uh-huh.