A
-- the judge decides whether or not they should hear it.
B
Yeah. Uh, it, it, it's kind of difficult, and I guess the whole system is set up to rather let, uh, some guilty people go free than to put an innocent person in, in jail --
A
Right.
B
-- although you still hear about those occasionally.
A
Yeah. Do you think the verdict should be completely unanimous by the jury?
B
Um, I don't know. I, you know, I heard a very interesting, and maybe it's just the T V show or movie I was watching, they were going through a trial, and I think it was like on one of the, the documentary T V shows where they ask for the, the verdict by the jury --