B
Yeah.
A
Well, I know that Gre-, James had it.
B
McCullum is.
A
I beg your pardon.
B
McCullum is.
A
Yeah, yeah. I know that when James was with Continental Steel, McCullum was part of that, and, and that's good. But I also heard, for instance, like, uh, my friend's daughter was on it through Texas Instruments, and she was on that Kaiser Permanente --