B
Uh-huh.
A
And I guess they've been using them for six months now. And I've known several engineers that got laid off and they said it's like getting a Ph D almost, they, the much they learn over there, you know, after they've been laid off, uh, one engineer said it was really an education. He, he just learned, like you, he said he learned a tremendous amount that he never would have able to pick up on his own. He was very thankful for that, too.
B
Well, this was not a learning thing by any means. It was just a, uh,
A
To have an office, yeah.
B
an assistance trying to find another job.
A
Yeah. Well, he said he learned so much and how, he thought, he thought he had a Ph D in how to get a job after he was,