B
Okay, I could see that that might be the situation where, uh, the person could be rehabilitated. But, I think just out and out murder, and I am talking about, uh, cutting people up --
A
Okay.
B
-- you know, where there's shown to be pathological tendencies where this person has done it over and over again, in a serial fashion or whatever. That those,
A
Right.
B
kinds of things and any, any kind of violent assault, rape included,
A
Uh-huh.