B
I think in general, uh, punishment in the United States is a lot weaker than it should be. I mean, it needs to be, you know, it's kind of like the, the justice system in the United States is kind of like the dog poops on the carpet and you wait three months and then you put his nose in it and spank him for it.
A
Yeah.
B
You know. I mean there, there's no connection between the two.
A
Right, right. Yeah.
B
I mean you take these, you know, most of the people who are committing violent crimes, most of them, not all by any means, but, you know, a large percentage are the kind of people who are living very much day to day in the first place.
A
Uh-huh.