B
Right. I think, um, the way the tax system was, they encouraged people to use credit cards, you know, with a big write off at the end of the year.
A
Yeah.
B
But now, it's like, it's punch money, because --
A
Right. It didn't do you any good now, does it?
B
-- you can not, right. You can not write off your interest.
A
Even before it probably wasn't, though, because you didn't get anywhere near as much as what it,