A
Uh-huh.
B
Uh, you know, to, going to college, university is going to take four to eight years depending on the --
A
Program.
B
-- p-, pa-, programs person's involved in and after that, you have to be out in the real world and have to be able to support yourself --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- and if you go in an area that there is just not much of a job market --