A
Uh-huh.
B
Uh, even, I have been involved, uh, just sli-, slightly in a case where I know the person is guilty --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- but, uh, his attorneys gotten him off.
A
Uh-huh.
B
Uh, the city has dropped their charges against him because their, the attorney has presented enough evidence of doubt to convince the judge. So I don't know.