B
I know.
A
You know, so it, it's, I, I think, I think in, in the end, the judge has the presiding, you know, uh, vote. I think he can be, you know, I, I don't know if it's the way it is in real life, but I've seen it on T V where the juries go one way and the judge to-, totally finds it obnoxious and he completely, you know, goes the other way.
B
Yeah.
A
Now, I'm not sure if the judge is allowed to do that in everyday life or what.
B
I think in some cases they are.
A
Uh-huh.