B
-- people to separate.
A
Th-, there definitely has to be a motivation factor and I know that, at w, where I work, I work for a defense contractor. And there's a big push on for recycling, uh, paper materials, you know, computer output paper and also to decrease the amount of, uh, Styrofoam usage because of the, uh, the process involved in Styrofoam and, and the whole eco issue and that. And, and they're very proactive and, uh, matter of fact, they give you discounts if you use, uh, china wear rather than, uh, Styrofoam stuff, so. So, i-, i-, it's incentives like that that get people people more conscious of it. I think that's, that's what they need to do. Be more proactive like that.
B
Uh, I know, uh, I believe it was last year that they actually collected the old phone books. Uh, usually have them come from MUMBLEx you know, projects to collect old ones. Usually just get dumped out with the trash. And phone books are a large volume of annual trash.
A
Yeah. They, they just, matter of fact, that, that reminded me of an article I saw in the pa-, the local schools, you could send your phone book to your, uh, to, with your kid to school and what they'll do is they'll recycle it. Because there was an article or a story done awhile ago that, uh, trash, uh, the telephone books are the type of thing that don't break down over a long period of time. A guy went to a d-, a landfill, dug down five feet and, and pulled up a phone book from like nineteen sixty because they don't, they don't degrade over such a period of time.
B
Well, part of the problem with recycling them in the past has been the covers are made with a clay based paper.
A
Yeah.