B
-- or it's applied at all?
A
Applied at all.
B
So, I, how do you feel that it should be applied?
A
Well, I ju-, I just feel like there's a lot of murderers and rapists, and everything else, just walking the streets. You know?
B
And that, that, the penalty ought to be out there, and be enforced?
A
Yes. Yes. Not getting paroled, let's say in so many,