A
-- just because they can't get into one, yeah, that's right. Yeah, the ways our tax laws and stuff are structured, you can't ever catch a break until you can get into a house --
B
Yeah.
A
-- in a lot of ways, so. Yeah, that's, that's a good point so, I'm trying to think of anything else that's changed over the last ten or twenty years.
B
Yeah, for me it's kind of hard, I don't know. I think, I don't know, I think the middle class is shrinking and the, uh, lower class is expanding --
A
Oh, yeah, I agree.
B
-- and sooner or later there's going to, there's going to be a turn around.