B
-- where the leaves are shading the tree but toward the end of the summer, you know, when everything starts dying off and whatnot and then the light can get through the tree, then the grass starts growing. But, by then it's so late then the winter comes and it stops. You know, it's, it's --
A
Right.
B
-- it's a never ending cycle.
A
It's a vicious cycle,
A
isn't it?
B
Yeah, it really is.