B
Yeah and it's very easy for them to say, oh this is the best way when they really aren't aware of what all it took to get the work done you know.
A
Yeah.
B
And then they wonder why it doesn't get done in the same amount of time. Well, those people aren't there anymore.
A
Right. Because it's support people that are providing --
B
Yeah.
A
-- the speed for it.