B
You think? I, I --
A
And,
B
-- I'm not really familiar with how other countries,
A
It's really more of a, um, like a respect issue th-, that the older, older people in other countries that I've been to seem to really have a lot more respect for the elderly people and, and they really seem as wise and, and in this country nobody really,
B
They're seen as senile.
A
Yeah, nobody really pays attention and they, oh, the old-timer made with the old way and nobody respects the traditions. And, you know, it's I, I'm not saying that I do either but --