B
-- professors that,
A
chairmen.
B
the men are.
A
Yeah. Not the deans and things like that.
B
Well, they did have one woman dean but, and I guess she, she probably did very well but that's the minority.
A
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Um, and do you think it's because women aren't qualified or, or just don't, or don't want the job or just aren't hired for the jobs.