A
Yeah.
B
And to me that's really scary. Some of these crimes that they commit, you know, seems like the punishment is not really equal to the crime.
A
Uh-huh. Well, uh, I don't know with, with my limited, uh, psychology background I do have, I don't, I don't even feel that prisons and stuff are, are the answer. If you want to stop the crime, I think you've got to get, uh, the people when they are kids.
B
Oh, yeah.
A
A lot of this probably just starts with, from the, from the homes. Also from the, the, the media, the T V -s, the, uh,
B
Uh-huh.