A
Do you know who it was about?
B
Um, well, I went to, uh, seminar on, uh, it was for, by American business and some of the people, uh, what the heck was his name, I'm trying to think. He's one of the, uh, Paroe, and um, it was more like, oh, it was tapes and things that they had about him, too.
A
Uh-huh.
B
How he started out as just a salesman and now he's, you know, multimillionaire and that type of thing, and how you have to, uh, be aggressive and, you know, really want something for yourself and that type of stuff. It's like up to you, in other words, whatever happens in your life.
A
Yeah.
B
It's not up, it's not someone else, you have to do it.