B
the, the people can not --
A
I don't know how --
B
-- afford it.
A
-- it is in Virginia, but in Florida now, uh, uh, uh, at eighteen years, someone was just sentenced to eighteen years, I heard it on TODAY, uh, without any specific recommendation for, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, waving the normal, uh, procedures. And the eighteen years will, uh, translate into something like, uh, four point seven, if every, if the, if the prisoner is a model prisoner,
B
Yeah.
A
and indeed the present overcrowding conditions, uh, prevail.