B
-- generally speaking, pretty true. And I think that's what we really ought to look at that, going is, if they are going to do equal work they ought to get equal pay.
A
Yes.
B
And that, uh, they ought to have equal opportunities to advance to those positions --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- and I don't think that we have gotten there yet.
A
Yeah. Well, what changes do you think are most significant over the past few years? Any individual thing --