B
Uh-huh.
A
-- they, uh, i-, I think it's a lot harder to get off on technicalities also because they, uh, uh, the judge is also sort of a jury, uh, but I'm not sure I like that. I think I prefer the jury system myself.
B
You think you prefer the jury? You think your chances are better?
A
Uh, well, actually I think in most criminal cases it wouldn't make any difference whether it was a couple of judges or jury. What, what I worry about is cases where it's the government against the individual. That's where you really need a jury of peers.
B
Well, that's true.
A
Because, uh, anytime th-, the government, uh, is the government against the individual you need som-, y-, you need the protection of ordinary citizens. I think that's really the only thing. I guess where I would like to see the system change is, uh, uh, there ought to be a, a well I guess I don't think that, uh, uh, juries need to decide sentencing all the time.