A
and, and how you can use them to your advantage, and, and how, you know, you, you can do certain things with them.
B
Yeah, I always, I use everything with my Visa, and I pay it all off.
A
Yeah.
B
So that's a good deal for me. I get free money for thirty days.
A
Yeah.
B
That's the way I use them, uh --