B
Uh-huh.
A
So, I mean I remember, uh, right around then that's when I first started hearing about Vietnam. But then as I got older and studied in school, I realized it was even going on before that.
B
Yeah.
A
You know, and you think to yourself, oh, my goodness, Eisenhower.
B
Yeah, right.
A
That sounds ancient, yeah. And I know, I know, you know, a lot of the Vietnam vets that are my age in their later thirties, uh, guys that I know, that, they are just kind of bitter, you know. They, they, you know, I hate to quo, that movie BORN ON THE FOURTH OF JULY, but it is that kind of idea.