B
Particularly, if you're hungry.
A
Yeah, yeah, you, it's not, it's not just a matter of, uh, of having an extra car or having a better car, this is a matter for them of, of feeding themselves their wife and their family and, and you, there's a certain degree of honor in being able to feed your family and there's dishonor in not being able to do it and ...
B
Uh, starving to death is not a, not a whole lot of fun either and, that,
A
No, no. Uh-huh.
B
In reality, I think, what they were doing is basically going in and trying to feed some people and help them protect themselves, not that they, I'm, I'm not sure the Catholic church is, is, is particularly political but, you know, if ...
A
Right.