B
Uh-huh.
A
I mean they are but I don't label it as such.
B
Like what for example.
A
Well, I don't know, um, I, uh, have attended some seminars that had some tapes that went with them, but, uh, I guess not so much books although they sometimes have manuals and things, but, uh, they would be things on like how to be successful and sort of talking to yourself. You know ge, getting your, yourself in gear to, uh, sort of pull yourself up by your boot straps and do what you really want to do.
B
Sure.
A
Convincing you that you need to get on with it.