A
You bet, I mean, that's the only way to,
B
It's when they, it's when they're in, on death row for nineteen years that I don't, I'm kind of c, curious about.
A
Oh, yeah, and you spend thousands, hundreds of thousands of dollars to, uh, take care of them and all, you know, it's just unbelievable.
B
Yeah, you can appeal now in North Carolina for almost a period of twenty years.
A
Can you really?
B
Yeah, you can just keep going around and around and around the merry go round until you, I think the, I think it's, uh, the average is eight to ten years to get in to the North Carolina Supreme Court --