A
-- how many lines you're going to use in an,
B
Uh-huh. A lot of times they, they, they do it manually on the computer, which just really is a waste of time, and then, if they ever have to change anything in that, in that, in the document, they have to go back and redo it all manually, whereas if they had learned the package properly to start with and had set it up correctly, the package would do that for them --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- whenever they wanted to make a change,
A
Can't you, can't you put,
B
so I, I've seen that as a problem.