B
Um, in your opinion, good or bad, or both?
A
Well, both, you know, there's some great things that, uh, have come about with more equality, but I think that also, I don't know what's causing society to have so many broken families and things like that, because I think that's bad for us.
B
I do too. I think part of that, I don't know, I think the role of women changing has been good in that women are feeling like, in terms of their self confid-, confidence, their self worth, you know, I can do something, I can be somebody, you know, if I put my mind to it, I can accomplish things too. And I think that's good, but, um, I think when you push, you know, maybe I think when that was first trying come about with, you know, what we know as the women's lib movement --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- I think it was too extreme. Um, I think you can be feminine and still be all those other things too, you know, and I think there's definite roles, and I think, you know, part of the break up of the family, maybe it's because of the, the, the social changes, I don't know, the fact that, uh, during their early changes where, you know, women did come more, speak, maybe speak out, I was going to say, come more out of themselves, but speak out, I think a lot of men were threatened by that. I think now less men are, you know, because they're used to it, it's around them. Um, but I, I don't know, I, I, I don't know why the families are breaking up. I think that may go back to what you said a minute ago about people not being responsible for themselves or their actions, because it's like they don't go into the marriage with a commitment that this is going to work. They go in and say, well, hey, you know, I'll stick with it while it's good, and then I'll get out. And I, I, I think that directly affects the effort that you put into that marriage or that commitment.
A
Yeah, I would agree with you. Uh,