B
Yeah, and she, uh, also told me that, well not her, uh, necessarily, other people that have been there have said that it is too commercialized.
A
Uh-huh.
B
Is it?
A
Uh, well, yeah. There is, it is commercialized.
B
Yeah. Sure.
A
I don't think I have enough, Oahu naturally has got more people on it than the other islands.