A
Which it MUMBLEx, I mean it sounds like, uh, now I think maybe it's started changing in the past few years because, uh, they have of these, uh, sort of mandatory, -tory tests if you have to take before you get --
B
Right.
A
-- a diploma. But, uh,
B
.
A
but, uh, certainly before that, there were people that, you know, would graduate from high school and could barely read. Uh, and that's just sort of inexcusable and you can't really, I, I, I mean I just can't even picture how that could happen.
B
Yeah.