B
and you just almost can't find that payment anymore.
A
Right.
B
So, I understand that, it's, it's kind of hard to go do. Well if you do look at them, I really recommend the Dodge Caravan. We've had wonderful, it's the only, uh, minivan they make that's on a car chassis instead of a truck chassis so it doesn't,
A
Uh-huh.
B
you know, shake you around like a tu-, a truck does.
A
Oh, I didn't know that.