B
Okay.
A
And so that's, I mean, they're still around I think.
B
Yeah. I've seen, well I've seen them around anyway. You know MUMBLEx.
A
So, that's what they do. They buy all, all the things that I B M throws away and they MUMBLEx, and that's why they're so compatible.
B
Uh-huh.
A
Because I mean and by the time you have computer for five years, you're going to throw it away anyway. You know.