A
-- nearly as important. We find that, you know, back just even fifty years ago when people had financial problems, the first place they went to was their family.
B
Uh-huh.
A
And families took care of themselves and, um, but now, you know, people don't, they don't --
B
Right.
A
-- support each other that way.
B
Right. Oh, definitely motherhood is devalued in this s-, society. If you're, stay at home and you're a mother, it's like what a waste.