A
Right.
B
And were not, uh, given the same respect.
A
I agree with that. I, I think you do see more and more women out there in politics, too, as mayors --
B
Yes.
A
-- or, uh, you know, in, in helping to maybe, uh, get some legislation passed to, to have women have more rights. I think still, even with that whole, um, thing with Judge Thomas and, and, uh, you, you still felt like the woman was the one that you would maybe discredit first before the man or something the way they had the trial and --
B
Uh-huh, uh-huh.