A
No.
B
Because, you know, you, if like the State of Texas, for example, may, uh, you know, may execute somebody twice a year. You know, that's, that's no kind of deterrent because we, we've got literally hundreds of people on death row, and, and many of them who have been there for literally for ten or fifteen years --
A
Right.
B
-- on death row, and that's, that's certainly no kind of deterrent, and I would tend to agree with anybody who says right now that it, it's not a terrent, a deterrent, because it's not.
A
No, it's not. You think of your chances of getting the death penalty after cre-, uh, committing a crime are really pretty slim right now. And you can,
B
Oh, yeah.