B
Yeah, I mean, that's so funny. I mean, and, and, in fact, he had just an hour before that two, uh, recent graduates from Kenyon spent close to two hours talking with him --
A
That's funny.
B
-- and, uh, I mean, and he, they were really nice, and, but he said is, that they didn't tell him anything that he didn't know, but they helped confirm his decision that a smaller school was better.
A
It was easy for him to rule out. He knew what he didn't want --
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
-- that's exactly, yeah. Now is your other, I mean we're talking about what you think, but obviously you're experiencing it. Uh,