A
Yeah, we, we have a few, uh, of the real short stem. They're kin-, they're kind of like the bush roses.
B
Okay.
A
But, uh, I don't know I think it's, I think it only has about five or six more years to go because it's a, it's a really old bush,
B
Yeah.
A
and but I, I, I'm amazed because the sun is so intense, and the roses just seem to survive just fine there.
B
Yeah, that's, we, that's what we're searching, uh, we've got, we've got all the different lake editions around the house and we're, we're kind of experimenting right now.