B
Uh, yeah, this is, the, uh, the, the, uh, mutual defense thing was, uh, we, we, it was complicated, and I don't think everybody knows the whole situation. I don't. But from what I can gather, is we went and said yeah, we will help the South Vietnamese, uh, should they ask. Well, the French went in and tried their old style warfare, and, uh, got soundly thrashed. And we didn't do a whole lot better.
A
Um. No, I had thought that they had, uh, colonies there, or something.
B
Well, yeah, that was the old French colony, but see, the French, the French were our, uh, allies in NATO --
A
Right.
B
-- and they're also our allies in SEATO, which was the Southeast Asia Treaty Organization, which has since been, uh, disbanded as far as I know, you know, NATO is, is on the way of being disbanded. Uh, but, uh, the, you know, the French, yeah we go in as an ally to the French and says yeah, we'll, we'll help you out, if you get in a bind. Well, they got in a bind and says we don't want to, you know, play any more --
A
Uh-huh.