B
And they're in a, in a state of flux right now changing, uh, e-, uh, changing a great deal --
A
Sure.
B
-- primarily because of the economic distress.
A
Uh-huh. Sure.
B
And even in that situation, uh, the, it seems like to me from what I've read in, in the history of Russia and, and you know different authors, uh, there has always been a paranoia. They've always suspected everybody and --
A
Sure.