A
-- y-, I think that's the only thing that's going to change it.
B
Yeah, heavy involvement from the public.
A
Our anger is going to have to, to give --
B
Yeah.
A
-- rise to, to more activity on our part. Uh, I've, I've said for years that there's full employment for the politically active and in our society, uh, there's very little full employment. Most people in this country are getting worse off, not better off.
B
Absolutely.