B
Oh, yeah.
A
-- I think Jordan and the, and the Bulls have to be, uh, considered the likely favorites. I don't know who would meet them in the west. Uh, I don't know how good Portland will turn out to be by the end of the year. They were so disap,
B
Who won that Portland game?
A
You know, I wasn't, I, I d-, I watched only a few minutes of it and I wasn't paying attention. Uh, and so I don't know, uh,
B
Uh,
A
But Phoenix, you know, Phoenix and Portland have both been very good clubs and,