B
.
A
but still, it's, you know, it's really not, not, not a good quality. And then I was told by somebody that works for J C Penney's that, uh, Ross, Ross is just one of those places that sell, sells seconds.
B
The defect.
A
Yeah, yeah, um, they don't really buy the first quality, they buy the second. And, uh, places like J C Penney's that they'll reject the seconds, they'll send them back every time.
B
Uh-huh.
A
But places like Ross Dress For Less and, uh, T J Max.