B
And at that point you know I, I really think there needs to be maybe a shorter appeal process.
A
I do too. I think that needs to, and I don't see why it couldn't be shortened considerably. But, you know,
B
Well, part of that is the overcrowding of the court system.
A
Yea-, that's true. It is overcrowded because there's so much drug, uh, problem with the people on drugs because that ha-, they, with the drugs they're, they're robbing and killing and, uh, that's why it's filled the prisons up so much I think.
B
Uh, it doesn't, it doesn't help them any at all --
A
No, it doesn't.