B
Uh-huh. Well, and, and, and so many of the, so many of the conflicts, um, really don't have a basis in, in, uh, politics or, or human rights or anything like that. It,
A
That's right, it's al-, it's mostly religious anyway.
B
It's, it's religious based and, uh, you know, by, by self-proclamation this is a holy war and it is right.
A
Yeah.
B
And then, uh, we, we go on from there and,
A
Yeah, exactly.