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Right.
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And, uh, I, I think it's gotten, uh, very different. When my second one was little, they were coming out with SESAME STREET --
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Right.
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-- which he started watching and, other than that, I mean, there was basically, there was not educational T V or --
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Um.
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-- uh, you know, you got some cartoons and that was it, but they, they were never that interested in it anyway. They'd rather, I mean, they'd take their trucks out in the backyard, you know --