A
Yeah. I've done both.
B
Yeah.
A
Uh, uh, my wife has picked up a couple of things saying, uh, boy if we could refinish that, that would be a beautiful piece of furniture and, uh, we've done it a couple of times. I guess that --
B
Oh, yeah.
A
-- we've been fairly successful with those. That's, uh, that's a kind of low risk sort of project, isn't it I guess.
B
Yeah. That's a good way to get started.