A
-- agree with that. That's definitely a problem.
B
Uh, too often I think they are not --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- and, uh, when you, when you are selecting a jury and you are doing it partially if, if not entirely on the basis of which color representation you have --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- you know that is a matter of concern to me too. Uh, I think that, uh, in such cases, uh, they are not really looking for unbiased people, but rather for biased.