B
-- keep up to date.
A
Let's see, the other thing there the topic was talking about was, if, if, uh, all I can think of is if you don't keep a real, a real tight budget, how do you control expenses, but, uh, one, another thing that we do is we always fly back to California and Washington each Christmas. Well, not fly back, but somehow we get back there.
B
Uh-huh.
A
And, uh, this year we did it by train because it was the least expensive and,
B
Well, actually, it's more interesting, too, if you've --
A
Huh?