A
Oh, I thought you were going to say something.
B
Huh-uh.
A
They somehow seem to get around these, the things that we can't, you know, that make, don't make that kind of money.
B
Right.
A
I don't know.
B
I mean, if they're in business, and, and they're making money, I could see if they're losing money, but they're making money --