A
I don't think exists anymore.
B
No.
A
You never see one of those punch cards anymore.
B
Uh, I think T V has a lot to do with the changes, too. Don't you? In, like, people's attitudes.
A
Well, very possibly. Uh, I'm not sure in the last ten years it's been very different from before. Uh, certainly in the last thirty I would say there have been significant changes. Even, even the change from black and white to color television.
B
Yeah.