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-- finance. He runs a big, the largest real estate company in Fort Worth debt free. And we really believe in debt free living and debt free car buying and debt free house buying. And if we do take out a loan on a house in the future, what we'll do is pay twice a, twice a month on it, and, because you save a lot in interest, just doing that.
B
Yes.
A
And then,
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You save a lot.
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Right.
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If, if, if, if, and you need to be very careful, if the loan is set up to have bi, they call it a yuppie loan, if it's set up for bimonthly --