B
-- to be honest with you.
A
Yeah, it's, it's just too easy, basically, uh, just get yourself in trouble with those.
B
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the only other one I have, I have like a Diner's Club through my, um, where I work --
A
I see.
B
-- so that I use, because I travel some. So I use that, and I don't really have to worry about that, because I only use it for business, so I automatically have the money to pay it off.
A
Yeah.