A
Uh-huh.
B
I mean, we can't say it doesn't, because it does happen. I mean not everybody is, you know, has, has the right morals sometimes. People can be paid off or politically --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- or whatever the case may be and sometimes that's not real fair either, though so,
A
Well, one of the others things that gets me on, on the juries is that often in the newspaper, I, I tend to hear two things that, well, that go on. One is, you often see in the headlines the big numbers.
B
Uh-huh.