A
-- five years, uh, you, you know.
B
Yeah, well, my brother, they're having trouble selling their home, see.
A
Oh, I'm sure, yeah, there, I mean, you can go down a street, and here, he told you this, every other house, you know, if it's been foreclosed on --
B
Right, uh-huh.
A
-- or, you know, even big executives --
B
Oh, yeah, yeah.