A
No, that's true. I, I just don't know when I'm ever, it just seems like there's just never enough time to pick it up and do it, you know, it's just really hard. But I really do en, like I said I really enjoy it when I do. It's just hard.
B
Just hard finding the time --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- that can be dedicated.
A
And there's, there's so many other things that, I, I have done, you know, in the meantime, like I said, so many baby gifts. I've made a lot of bibs, and wall hangings, and so, you know, those don't take much time at all. So it's no big deal for me to pick those up and do them.
B
Do you, do you use patterns, I mean, like a book of patterns, or do you go out an buy a, a kit, like for a bib or something like that.