A
Yeah, yeah.
B
And the problem is that ideally you they, you know, the world would like you to be completely indifferent. So, um, but I, I, I understand what you say about the environmental movement, um, it's, it's been a long time coming,
A
Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah.
B
And I, I just, I've seen a lot of changes, I mean, from the original earth day --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- and, um, I'm heavily involved in, you know, my own personal recycling. We recycle paper,