B
Uh-huh.
A
-- so far as getting their careers established, and, uh, they don't --
B
Well,
A
-- no longer feel dependent upon men,
B
Well, do you think that that maybe, I mean, uh, I've heard different, you know, like, um, like I know my mom and like other ladies, they complain because they think that, um, the women now are too busy with their own personal life and career that they really don't have time for their kids.
A
That's probably true, I mean, they, they are, a lot of them that have to put their kids into day care --