B
And, uh, it's kind of these intervention programs. Now, a lot of people will get to looking at these and say hey that's socialism and that's communism,
A
Right.
B
and that's, you know, and then it gets political.
A
Uh-huh.
B
But, uh, boy.
A
When people start talking about programs that help, for me, I don't care if it's socialist, or I don't care,