A
-- working to maintain a standard of living --
B
Okay.
A
-- that, uh, they think is, is surviving which is really more luxuries.
B
Uh-huh.
A
Uh, but I I tend to think that it's less those people that have the two cars and everything than it is the group that is just trying to survive.
B
Yo-, so you think it's, which group are you saying is the one trying?