A
Right, exactly.
B
-- doing s-,
A
I was a, I was a Boy Scout. As part of being a Boy Scout, you had to do, you know, projects all throughout and then to become --
B
Ex-,
A
-- an Eagle Scout you have to spend a, do a yearlong project.
B
Right, that's, see that's what we did in Girl Scouts and that got you involved real good and it, I think it starts kids out on the right track and then it lets them decide if that's what they enjoy doing.