A
Yeah. yeah. And, uh, now I didn, I don't know it di, I, I think you're right that that's not the, not the way that the society these days is going, and I, I think we need to, we need to try to figure out some way to, to turn that around that everybody,
B
It's really, it's really unfortunate because when you do, I do volunteer work for the American Lung Association.
A
Huh.
B
And I have, have done, uh, gone to work for American Heart and just recently for the Leukemia Society. And there's, there's no question that doing, you know, doing that kind of service you get a lot more out of it than, uh, than the people involved.
A
Yeah.
B
Uh, it's, it's really a gift to yourself and, and that's, I think that's a really important lesson to learn.