A
Yeah.
B
-- and something, you know, something has to be done but just that too many people argue about how to fix it.
A
Yeah. I know when I lived in Oakland, it was just that, uh, like, I definitely wouldn't go into certain areas of, of the city by myself.
B
Oh, sure.
A
And, uh, and then, then again some areas I wouldn't go by myself after dark --
B
Right.