B
-- but they are, they'll take any T I non-credit union loan --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- like if you have a fourteen percent loan for a new car.
A
Uh-huh. Oh, really. Uh-huh.
B
One of the secretaries we have down here is paying twelve percent through G M A C or something.
A
Uh-huh.