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See, I don't think the decisions that are going to be made on dea-, on the death penalty until we decide what our prison system is intended to do. Are they reformatories, where we're trying to take people who can't survive or, or that, that aren't conforming enough to society so that, that we work well together. Or are they, is it a penal institution? Is it, is, is it designed for punishment? Um, the death penalty surely fits in well with, uh, in a penal situation where you're trying to punishment. Uh, perhaps not in the manner that we do it but, but it, in, in theory it fits in. In reforma, system, in a reformatory, I mean if you, if you put someone to death you obviously,
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can't reform them.
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That's true.
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So.
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Uh, th-, the other argument is that the death penalty is a deterrent and I really don't, uh, agree with that. I don't think anyone who would commit a, uh, a crime that would get them the death penalty would stop at the moment and say, well, I was about to kill and dismember this person but, oh, if they catch me they're going to kill me so I better not do it. I, I just,