B
So there is a lot of outs, but the only result is, otherwise he gets life in prison.
A
Yeah, and I'm really kind of against life in prison anyway --
B
Yeah.
A
-- because it costs so dog gone much.
B
Right, and, and to me, I mean, you take away a person's freedom, you've taken away most of their life.
A
That's true. I mean, if you're going to put him in prison for life --