A
Uh, but I, I don't know, I guess a lot of it's still a lot of hype. Look at the, the Smith trial.
B
Uh-huh.
A
I mean, that was a joke.
B
Yeah, that was, but then you also have things where you, uh, where they broadcast the Clarence Thomas hearings basically the whole length of them which I thought was r-, really good.
A
Oh, yeah, the N P R doing that, yeah, I know, I had, uh, some visitor and he was just in-, just, I don't know, fixated on that, you know, just listened to it --
B
Uh-uh.