B
Oh, yeah.
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-- and if they would vote with their conscience and with what their constituents feel, I think, uh, we might have a, a lot better, a lot more efficient running government and a lot better laws passed.
B
Oh, I agree with you. Well, of course, you know, we have the national embarrassment in our state, Jessie Helms,
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and, uh, as soon as, as we can get, of course it seems to me that every time he opens his mouth, he, he just lines up people against him so,
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