A
Right.
B
I mean, uh, you, you try to, you go into a, a business today and, you, you try to imagine the whole thing except running off of carbon paper and it's almost inconceivable now because the Xerox machines and, and everything have become such, you know, su-, such a, a par-, a part of the way we live.
A
Right. We fax --
B
And MUMBLEx,
A
-- everything.
B
Yeah.