A
That's, that's pretty low that there's --
B
Yeah.
A
-- forty-eight countries ahead of us that have more peop-, more citizens percentage wise that can read and write, so, um, unless we want to keep paying, paying for these people that can't make it in society, we're going to have to do something. I don't know. Obviously nobody's smart enough to have figured it out yet, so I probably can't. But I do think that we have to cut out some of this folderol stuff and go back in the first five, six grades and just keep going over and over and over until most of those that are capable can at least learn to read and write -- -- because they can't even get the menial job without being able to read something nowadays --
B
Right.
A
-- you know. Uh, you can't, you can't even work an answering machine if you're at work and had to get a message or something, you know, or fill out an application to work at McDonalds if you can't read.
B
Uh-huh.