A
Yeah.
B
And then, uh, we, we go on from there and,
A
Yeah, exactly.
B
Yeah, it, it's, it's a mess. It, it's, there's no doubt about it, and, uh,
A
Well, I, I, I think one of the big problems, I mean looking at it from the Am, the American public's standpoints, they don't understand the Middle Easterners.
B
That's right.