A
Uh-huh.
B
-- or, or something. It never has worked out completely.
A
Yeah, it takes a lot of concentration. I mean, it was the type of thing, I was, I was making some little things for Christmas, and I also made a little thing for a baby gift, and, uh, I thought, Oh, I can do this while I watch T V. Wrong.
B
Right.
A
No, you must pay all attention to what you're doing. It's, it is a lot more difficult than it seems like it would be. It took me, uh, quite a bit of time. I though, Oh, this won't take long at all. But --
B
Uh-huh.