B
I don't know how, what it would take to be, come up with a true perfect system, or if one exists. But,
A
Yeah.
B
Uh, is that the crime and it's already, MUMBLEx some chart and determine the punishment, or.
A
Yeah, like if you're convicted of a certain crime you automatically get so many years. It's not a discretionary thing.
B
Uh-huh. I think there should be a core minimum that they get --
A
Uh-huh.