A
Right.
B
-- than you would by paying for cash. Are they the same there?
A
We, yeah, we have the same thing up here, so we don't deal where they do that.
A
We cha, you know, we go to places where they don't charge extra. Some of them charge five cents a gallon, even, like the gas stations more,
B
That's pretty steep.
A
And, uh, we just try to avoid, you know, the ones that do that, we just don't, uh, go there --