A
-- who, and, or is it just random --
B
Uh-huh.
A
-- crime, but, uh, we've been real lucky that no one in my family with the, anywhere that they live has had, been a victim of, you know, a serious crime.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
But, uh, it's really scary to know that you can live a normal life and try to be a good citizen --
B
Uh-huh.