B
Yeah, that's, that's a big step, yeah.
A
Yeah, it is,
B
Yeah, uh,
A
especially with the, being in on the creative a-, aspect and the crafty end. You know, after a while you make some stuff, then you start looking at it, go, boy, this, this is kind of ugly. But I know someone who does a lot of woodworking for a hobby. Um, he does it, believe it or not, I wouldn't imagine why, but to get out of the house, away from his wife, because he's a seasonal worker, he works in the construction. And up here it's almost a pattern, and you see your fathers do it, then their sons do it. What they do is they work construction, then they get laid off for like twelve weeks in the winter. And, uh, this guy was going nuts, and his, uh, son built him a garage and got him some, uh, oh, I don't know what the equipment's called, but planers and things --
B
Uh-huh,
A
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