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um, he started out with one called THE FAMILY, which does the family systems and people's roles in the family. And then he did, uh, HE, HE, HEALING THE SHAME THAT BINDS YOU,
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Uh-huh.
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about how shame can just be so paralyzing and people isolate and withdraw. And then the third one that he came out with is now called HOMECOMING. Uh, and, uh, there's a subtitle to it, I never can remember what it is. It's something like, um, A JOURNEY IN, IN YOUR INNER,
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Yeah. I knew,
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CHILD or something like that.
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his literary agent in Houston when she was just, uh, convincing him to write all this down. He was --