B
-- and we didn't know what things were like. So.
A
I would, I would love to go there. I mean, like, again, not now, but at some point, to go see what, what this is like, I mean, this, this is amazing, because, this is, this is an, this is an example of an entirely different culture that wants to be like us. Like you said before, MUMBLEx so it would be interesting to watch.
B
Yeah, I and, I, the, the people. I just feel so sorry for the people in the country, that they can't, I mean, they, they can't do any-, they can't change it. They try they, and they, there's nothing that they can do.
A
Yeah, that's, that's and the ones I even feel somewhat worse for, even, um, the ones in like the Baltic states --
B
Uh-huh.
A
-- where they don't have a strong leader, then, you know, at least, at least Russia has some sort of strong leader. I mean they have Yeltsin who may, who may yet sort of help Russia.