A
But if no one does anything when they're little, then it's twice as hard as, I think, as they get older.
B
Yes. I'm saying this as I'm trying to keep my nine month old from trashing something.
A
Yes, I understand, I wait until I put mine in bed before I make my calls.
B
Yeah, well, she's usually in bed by this time, but she's staying up late tonight. But, yeah, I want to have a relationship with her. You know, my dad was a very traditional dad, and when I was a child I didn't really know my dad very well, and I miss that. And I want,
A
That's the thing, if woman's role, like we said, if women's roles change drastically, men's roles will, too.
B
Yeah, but men have to be convinced of that.