B
-- conditions. He-, hey, that's kind of sad.
A
No, but I mean, it's like, it's like they, they have just like different policy. I don't know. My dad works for them but it's like I B M like never in their commercials, they never put down any other company, you know. It's like --
B
No.
A
-- they won't say,
B
Well, they're the standard right now. Or as far as that goes, you know, people think of computers, they think of I B M a lot of times. And the main,
A
Yeah. Because see what happens is they have a good backup policy.