B
-- you know, and, and, and I guess before I'd like to see that severe of a punishment for it it has to be a, an absolute certainty --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- you know, like, uh, caught at it, or something --
A
Right, right,
B
-- you know, or if they, they, uh, you know, severely beat up on a child, or, you know, I would have absolutely no problem at all --
A
Yeah,