B
Yeah, it, it's, it's a mess. It, it's, there's no doubt about it, and, uh,
A
Well, I, I, I think one of the big problems, I mean looking at it from the Am, the American public's standpoints, they don't understand the Middle Easterners.
B
That's right.
A
They don't understand what, I mean their politics really isn't politics. It's religion couched as politics.
B
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
A
And there's a big difference.