B
Uh, for instance, uh, well, you know, I am just not taken as seriously, you know,
A
Uh-huh.
B
at professions, as many of the wom-, as many of the men who are doing the same job I do. And, uh, the choir members treat me differently because I am a woman, they expect me to be more motherly, they question my authority more, uh, than they ever would a man. And I have experience with this, because I work at both, both as a director of music and also as an associate under a man.
A
Uh-, uh-huh.
B
So I am pretty, I am pretty ob-, pretty cons-, I mean, I am pretty aware of what goes on --
A
Surely.