B
some times,
A
Yep, that's about the lump sum of it. Well, um, I was speaking with a, a woman from, I believe she was from the Honduras or Guatemala, or somewhere in there, no, she was from El Salvador --
B
Yeah.
A
-- and, uh, she was from a relatively wealthy family, and when, uh, the Contras came into power, of course with, uh, oh, gosh darn, what's his face, he's in, in Florida jail now, Marcos --
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
-- uh, no, he's, Marcos is Philippines,