A
Uh-huh. Do you think that, uh, for whatever taxes we do pay that, uh, we are getting value for it?
B
No.
A
Yeah. Uh, my, my opinion of taxes is that we just send money to Washington or to the state and they say they are going to send some back, it's like giving yourself a tra-, it's like one arm giving the other a transfusion.
B
Yeah.
A
You know what I mean?
B
Yeah.