A
Well, I guess if the police came out and saw him fire the gun,
B
Well, that was a subsequent case that we didn't know about.
A
Oh, really?
B
And those jurors don't know about. But this particular case, I mean, they had a complete confession from the guy --
A
Okay.
B
-- with a lot of things that, that the police hadn't released so no one else would have known.