B
-- it's only an advantage for people who had to use pure D O S.
A
Yeah, yeah that's true, too.
B
MUMBLEx base.
A
But, uh, I don't know, I'm really, I've gotten a little bit out of the, the personal computer business just because I don't have one at home. I, I do use a Mac at work but, uh --
B
Uh-huh.
A
-- uh, I really don't, don't do much with it at home but, uh,