B
Downside. Um, uh, well, the MUMBLEx says we should, uh, go into the grief that, that's there and, you know, MUMBLEx presidents have always avoided that --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- as a country. So it's pretty serious, really, you know, lot of things that aren't being addressed.
A
Uh-huh. I think MUMBLEx you know, that's pretty typical that, of the entire, entire involvement over that, you know, that nothing was really addressed, it was, it wasn't, you know, it was never we, we announced that we were going to war, it was such a gradual and subtle, you know --
B
Yeah.
A
-- thi-, um, you know increasement of, of force that.