B
Yeah, I was so good at it that it just kind of got stuck in the back of my mind and just never --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- um, became a real problem until all of a sudden it came an insurmountable problem.
A
Yeah. I suspect that, you know, thinking about it and looking at my friends and the number of credit cards that they use and, you know, the amount that I know they buy, I guess probably a lot of them are in a similar situation, and, you know, just don't talk about it.
B
Yeah. Most, most people don't like to talk about money. They feel uncomfortable, I think.
A
Uh-huh, uh-huh,