B
Uh-huh.
A
I imagine it's a lot harder on a computer because you have to, you know, you don't have as many cues, you can't, don't have hand gestures and things like that.
B
Right. Well, now, we, uh, what I use a computer for is to write materials that --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- are later printed, though. Most of the stuff that I do is not, uh, interactive --
A
Uh-huh.