B
Oh yeah, interdiction's hopeless. I mean --
A
Yeah, and then another, another one will jump up.
B
-- there's no way you're ever going to win that.
A
But we, we see,
B
The tighter you squeeze, the more the price goes up, the more incentive there is. I mean that's a losing fight.
A
Yeah. A-, a-, as soon as we wind up, uh, uh, you know, for, well if we can just destroy the market by destroying the demand but, but people --