B
Yeah.
A
you know, but then when I went, um, for graduate work, you know, or for a new job, people said to me, you know, Shippensburg State, where is that, you know.
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
And, you know, when I went into higher education, even at other universities, they weren't aware of it, you know.
B
Yeah.
A
So I think yeah, that's important, um,. I think it depends on if you want to be a, if you want a regional job or a national job, you need that first,