A
Even in Utah.
B
Yeah well,
A
Well, Utah's a place where you wouldn't think that problem would be very severe.
B
Well, uh, maybe it was the area I was in, but a lot of schools had a lot of transient, uh, families and a lot of families who were on the poorer side and,
A
Yeah, you, so, you saw a fair number of troubled kids.
B
Yeah, I mean, like you said, how they were, the schools are doing more things for the kids, they thought, than they were thirty years ago. I mean, they were, the school I was teaching at, the, the year I left, they were considering providing hot lunch for or --