A
Yeah.
B
And, uh, get them involved in things because, uh, well I don't know, I was watching on, a movie on T V, I don't know how true those can be, but you know, they, one guy got all sorts of kids under eighteen to do it by telling them, you know, you won't have a record because you're under eighteen. They'd steal cars and everything.
A
Oh.
B
So, I guess if they had,
B
more of a deterrent, if they had more severe punishments it might be, but the courts are so backlogged right now it takes forever just to go to trial.
A
Yeah.