B
Oh, yeah.
A
A lot of this probably just starts with, from the, from the homes. Also from the, the, the media, the T V -s, the, uh,
B
Uh-huh.
A
all these, uh, gory movies on there becomes, uh, just a natural fact of life.
B
Uh-huh. They think it's okay thing to do.
A
Yeah.