B
Uh-huh. And it's like, boy, the stuff that they can twist around --
A
Yep.
B
-- is, it's pretty amazing.
A
And it's like the, the truth isn't really important anymore. It's,
B
Yeah, it's not. And then you get people who, who bring in cases just because they want to bring them up just because.
A
Yep.