A
Yeah.
B
-- uh, they're all you know, nor-, the only commitments that they're interested in making or even talking about are ones for flash value like, uh, the trip to Mars.
A
Right, exactly.
B
Which is, would, would produce some useful scientific research and so forth, but the same money could probably be far better spent on, uh, uh, lunar bases and solar power satellite research and, you know, so forth.
A
Uh-huh.
B
It, it would de-, it would be being done for the, uh, glitz and show factor --