A
Do you think he's the hero that he's being called by a bunch of other, a bunch of the media?
B
Um, well, not, not really, though I mean, I think he's probably doing the right thing for a man in his position, but I don't think it's anything exceptional that he's doing. It's what many people have done already, who were just less famous.
A
You know, I took advantage of the opportunity when, you know, he came out. I talked to my kids about it, you know --
B
Uh-huh.
A
-- it's something that I hadn't, hadn't done before.
B
Uh-huh.