A
Yeah. Well, I, the cost is something but it's, but I think it's relatively unimportant compared to what's the most effective way of,
B
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A
dealing with crime and I guess I would like, I don't know, the European countries certainly, uh, none of them have capital punishment and they --
B
Oh, really.
A
-- they don't have a crime problem either. No, you can't, they don't execute anybody in Britain or France and I don't believe they do in Germany or Italy either and they don't have the crime problems we do. I don't really think that there is too much of a relationship between the two.
B
Yeah.