A
Yeah.
B
-- and his Master's degree --
A
Yeah.
B
-- and so forth, and so it was a matter of somebody had to have a MUMBLEx job.
A
That's right, that's right. And that's what was kind of what, where we were, you know, we, I really didn't have to work, but I felt like I really wanted to work.
B
Uh-huh.