A
Well, that's right. I think, I don't know, I think, uh, people in general, the, the, the idea of what you need to, to exist is so outrageous that it's not --
B
Uh-huh.
A
-- hardly. You know, it starts at the courts, it starts everywhere --
B
Right.
A
-- until we can't, we've just lost control of, of any kind of perspective about what is acceptable and what is not acceptable, you know.
B
Well, it's so much money and you can't even add it up, you know,