B
For both of us.
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Have you ever read any of Frank E Peretti's?
B
Frank E no I guess I haven't.
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Uh, THIS PRESENT DARKNESS and, uh, uh, I forget the t-, the other, well he, uh, he's also written a lot of children, how old is your daughter.
B
Five.
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Five, okay, he's written some children's books as well and they're all spiritually,