A
Uh-huh.
B
There that,
A
I think it works much better if it's, if it's the actual jury.
B
Yeah, because, well, th-, see the jury is dealing with the seriousness of the crime,
A
Uh-huh.
B
the jury gets to see the whole trial, as does the judge, but you know, if, if they figure there's maybe litigating circumstances, or something like that whereas maybe the judge does, just doesn't care, you committed this crime so I'm just going to throw the book at you.