A
Uh-huh.
B
I feel that a lot of, uh, women don't, all right I said they have the choice but they don't necessarily feel that they do because they no longer feel like if they were just to be a parent rather than, uh, you know, a sort of super woman success in the business world as well,
A
Uh-huh.
B
they would somehow be perceived as a failure,
A
Right.
B
in their own eyes or in others, and, and then you, and then it's not a choice anymore.