A
-- computers and electronic things.
B
Huh.
A
Uh, so I let my son do it and,
B
Yeah.
A
Uh, of course, you know, there's, uh, there's an intellectual evolution taking place where, it's sort of a joke but it's really true, the old-timers, even the people who are technologists don't know how to operate these electronic things like V C R -s and whatnot and the kids, they just take to it like candy.
B
Yeah. Well, i-, if, if, if the interface is there so that it's like fun to use and the challenge,