A
Oh, yes, but we try, you know, I try, my husband also, we're involved in everything our kids does --
B
Yeah.
A
-- because, uh, my dad died, you know, when I was less than a year old --
B
Yeah.
A
-- so I always just had a mother. So I always thought, when I have kids, you know, I really want to be involved with them.
B
Well, my dad, all he, all he wanted to do was get money for us, so he could buy us material things.