B
-- back and forth and it was not hard and you get, you can get a CAT CAM system that can take any design you want and you can push a button and it'll convert every measurement on there --
A
Right.
B
-- you know, from one system to the other --
A
There's a lot of --
B
-- in seconds.
A
-- people, like you're educated, I'm educated, my husband is, but, I mean, a lot of people are flat not educated and if I have a hard time, you know --