A
Well, it, uh, well, I don't know.
B
How, how can it work?
A
Is it working? I mean that's, that's the question. I guess the question also is that we discovered, is that they don't throw rascals out. Everybody seems --
B
Right.
A
-- disappointed, but they don't throw the rascal out, their own rascal.
B
Right.