A
I don't have a Master Charge, thank you.
B
But, see our whole system is built on owing --
A
Right.
B
-- not borrowing.
A
But, that's the problem, see. Our system shouldn't be based on owing and borrowing and all that.
B
Uh, true. But, uh, uh, without it, people wouldn't be able to own automobiles or they wouldn't be able to own a house.