A
-- and, uh, K O A is, is geared for the people that have a hookup.
B
That actually travel, what, city to city, state to state.
A
Right, exactly, and, uh, I started out basically camping when I was, when I was in Boy Scouts, and we did an awful lot of that as, as a Boy Scout group. As I mentioned earlier, we went into wilderness areas and we camped in the snow, and in, uh, snow caves, and, and, uh,
B
That's probably where I first started, was in Girl Scouts.
A
All right. And you got a lot of that in, huh?
B
Yeah.