A
Uh-huh.
B
It's so difficult for them. Um, did you have your children, did you say in home, in, in, private care, was that in your home or in someone else's home?
A
Until they were two. Yeah. Yeah, both times they were at our house.
B
Uh-huh. So you were able to have somebody come there.
A
And that was hard too. I, I lucked out with really good people both times but I know so many people that are never able to find that and I'd practically give my paycheck away to do it, so.
B
Yeah. Yeah. Did you have a nanny or did you have someone --