A
Uh-huh, yeah, I agree with you very much so. Now, we waited several years before we started having children because we was still in college, and we knew time wise, or, and money wise, too --
B
Yeah.
A
-- would, it would not have been a good idea to had them then.
B
Yeah, my, my father was raising four ki-, oh well, three kids before he had me, so it was, uh, you know, you're trying, to support, uh, four kids, and it's pretty hard --
A
Yeah.
B
-- you know, and I, I told him, listen you could have had a lot of money if you would have only had two kids.