B
Uh, and, you know, like I said, the, you know, everyone has their opinions about every case.
A
Well, w-, do you think people should have a trial is they're caught dead to rights like,
B
Oh yeah. I, I feel that everyone is, everyone is, uh, entitled to a trial by jury. That, that, that right s-,
A
I mean, supposing I come up to you and I just point blank kill you.
B
Well, I mean, were there witnesses?
A
In other words you're saying that, w-, you have to find out whether it's premeditated or --