B
So you're all back to the safety catches and the whole nine yards or either watching them every minute.
A
Well, I just watch them.
B
Yeah.
A
I d-, I never did put things up when my kids were little and I haven't with them. I try to teach them not to get into things.
B
Well, that's the same thing that I did. I hope I'll be able to do the same with grandchildren.
A
I think that once you do that, your children kind of develop the same attitudes. At least my daughters have. They try to teach theirs not to get into things instead of having to put everything up. So it's worked pretty well. There's, I don't really think anything's been broken. Every now and then we have to kind of go and say, now don't bother this, you know.