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will wipe you out every month, it's almost getting to be like the house payment, you know.
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I know, you can't find what you used to, could find something for, you know, seventy-five, a hundred dollars a month. It might not be brand new but it was a decent car,
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Right.
B
and you just almost can't find that payment anymore.
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Right.
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So, I understand that, it's, it's kind of hard to go do. Well if you do look at them, I really recommend the Dodge Caravan. We've had wonderful, it's the only, uh, minivan they make that's on a car chassis instead of a truck chassis so it doesn't,