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Uh-huh.
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I never have been, since, you know, my parents had to force me to get my driver's license when I was young --
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Uh-huh.
B
-- when I was sixteen. So I've never really cared. Now, what I was, you know, before I was married and before I went to graduate school, I used to do little sports car racing. I never, it was never my own car --
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Uh-huh.
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-- it was always someone else's. And that sort of thing I enjoy, but to go out and drive, uh, never has really been, had any appeal to me --