A
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
B
and, people's response to that, you know, at first not trusting and now, expecting more.
A
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
B
And what ab-, what about the last ten years that you've been aware.
A
Well, that I've been aware of, I've, at least in my own circles I've been aware of an increasing from my generation, I don't know if I can quite call myself a distinct generation from you, but half generation off, I guess. Um, I've noticed, uh, a certain increase, um, pessimism with America no longer being sort of on top. I had the impression, well, I mean, there was the quote, unquote losing of the Vietnam war, which was a blow, and it was right around that time when I started becoming socially, you know, a socially conscious adult. And, I realize that people of my age have no, um, no major success in the sense that, uh, you saw the passage of the Civil Rights Act, and, um, major social change in that sense, and I, and all the changes that have happened in the last, uh, even during my adulthood, have been more incremental. They've been continual perhaps and good gains have been made, but there hasn't been the same sort of fiery speeches of Martin Luther King or whatever, that has really, uh, galvanized the population. And there's just, instead there's been sort of an increasing, oh, I don't know, Japan bashing and things like that.
B
Uh-huh.