A
Uh-huh.
B
-- and the people need to follow that. I think, uh, years ago, I used to be far more, uh, committed to the idea of, of a dress code --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- but I've relaxed a lot more as I've gotten older and become more comfortable with myself.
A
Well, I think that's, I think that's great. I think that's good.
B
It's taken a long time to break away,