B
-- and we probably still have about another year to go --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- before we're completely out of the hole. But I think this, they way the whole economy is going right now, it's just not good to be in debt.
A
That's right, that's right. Yeah, yeah, that, I would, that would be a very scary feeling for me to know that I was, you know, juggling payments to different people --
B
Uh-huh.
A
-- I guess because I never experienced it. And it's not, because you know, I'm rich or anything, it's just, a mental concept that I have.