B
Do you use them frequently or,
A
Well, we, uh, me and my wife, when, when we have like extra money that we know we're going to have, and we can put it in our budget, yeah, we'll, we'll use it. But like last year, I think we paid, I think it was like twenty something cents interest,
B
.
A
on our Visa.
B
Uh-huh.
A
And I think this, this year we, uh, I think we used it for Christmas, and we got caught just a few days on our grace period. And, uh, so we'll pay a little interest this year, but maybe two dollars. But we don't like to do that at all.