A
-- we don't go hunting or anything like that.
B
Uh-huh.
A
But like I say, my son, he's,
A
he's always had a, like, I think his first little rifle that we got him was like he twelve or thirteen years old.
B
Uh-huh.
A
But he's always, he went to the, to the school to learn how to shoot it. He goes to the pistol range and th-, and the rifle range to shoot them. He likes to go to that, uh, shotgun thing where you shoot at those, uh --