B
Uh-huh. No doubt --
A
But,
B
-- yeah.
A
Yeah, and institutionally, like here at the university, oh if there is a cut back, well gee, it's not where it necessarily where it's needed, it's where it's most expedient which,
B
Expedient, yeah that's exactly it. Yeah, where the most dollar, where, where you know it cuts back the most.
A
Well, in one sense for us, it's where it makes the least noise which means it's --