A
Uh-huh.
B
-- in interest.
A
Yeah.
B
Part of the problem is we don't loan from ourselves. We, we buy from intimate international banking. That's why we have interest.
A
Uh-huh.
B
And, and I, I, I really feel that, that, that is part of the problem that we, we've let things get so out of control that, that we don't want to put the brakes on them.