A
Well, credit cards.
B
Yeah.
A
I'll tell you what, I, I can't say a whole lot about credit cards because I, uh, tore mine up.
B
Is that right? I, I know pe-, I know some other people that have done that.
A
Yeah, uh, I got in some problems with, uh, financial problems because of credit cards so I, uh, basically just got rid of all of them.
B
Um.