A
-- and, and our routine has MUMBLEx obviously hectic with teenagers and everything --
B
Right.
A
-- and she's much, and so the stimulation part is really important. I think, like any animal, anything --
B
Right.
A
-- you just lay around, uh, that's the fastest way to die, I think, you know.
B
Stagnant. Yeah, that's exactly right. I think they're really neat. Um, of course I've seen those reports on T V, the horrible ones --