B
and so pretty much now, uh, we don't use them too much. If we travel or something, yeah. But, you know.
A
Uh-huh.
B
Standard, we usually don't. Or if it, it is a purchase, uh, then it's paid off when the bill comes. You know, so it isn't any extended, uh, it may be that I picked up something at the store, but then when the bill comes we always pay it off then, so it's not any, you know, uh, build up on the charge cards at all.
A
That's good.
B
And, but that hasn't always been the case. So, I'm kind of, I feel at least better now that I have finally gotten some of those things, uh, you know, in the past, and I don't have, you know, big cumulative amounts due to those charge cards, because that interest rate just is a killer.
A
Oh, and it's not deductible anymore.