B
Really. Yeah, I think that's probably like, uh, quite a few things that, that the kids, uh, maybe not so much nowadays but used to --
A
Yeah.
B
-- go through, you know, they, just, they were, they did things for people,
A
Yes.
B
you know, for their communities, for their, their, uh, families, for their friends, where now, I'm not sure they really do.
A
Yeah. Well, I think sometimes through groups and organizations, um, my first, when I first thought of it, I thought it, uh, when they asked the question I thought, well that sounds wonderful. And then, I wondered if people were unwilling but, but I think even if you went in with a negative attitude I don't think it would stay negative very long. Um, but I do know through some organized groups like Scouts and church --