A
Boy,
B
Do you think the program came first or the,
A
yeah, that, there's a, I, I can say there's a correlation, but I couldn't say which, which caused the other. They sort of, dev, you know, each developed a little bit and then would feed off one another and develop a little bit more, and a little bit more.
B
Yeah, the more money they put into it.
A
Yeah. And,
B
I can see that. And, cause, I, knowing from institutes of learning like that, I know that they've got to get their money somewhere, and somebody's got to be willing to pay for it, and believe in it, so,