A
I agree, uh, with, with both of those things, but, uh, do you see any way of like altering it so that they would become more honest?
B
I think by putting term limitations on you could, you could slow down some of the problems.
A
Uh-huh.
B
Uh, but it has to be not just at the national level but at the, you know, the state and the local level, too. I know some senators, and I don't know which ones, but they've been in office since the, the nineteen forties --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- and I, th-, they've never had a job. I mean they've never gone out in the real world and, and paid normal taxes.