A
I keep thinking that there's got to be some way, that, that a lot of this is circumstances. I mean, I can't help but wonder if, if I grew up without a father, on the streets, and --
B
Oh, yeah.
A
-- with like little or no money, wouldn't --
B
Oh,
A
-- wouldn't I be in prison at this point?
B
Oh, yeah, absolutely. I think, uh, yeah, I think you can blame it on social problems. Sure.