A
I guess we are just to discuss trials and, and punishment. If it's to be given by the judge or not. Did you, did you catch your explanation of that?
B
Yes, I did. It's, it's, uh,
A
Okay.
B
The, uh, maybe I'm a hard liner but I think that there should be some preset penalties in criminal cases. Rather than, uh, degrees of sentencing.
A
You mean the crimes or the punishment should fit the crime?
B
Right. Right.