A
-- in the system that we've got that, you know, trying to convert over, and I guess, what'd they try, they tried what'd the call it, soft conversion and hard conversion --
B
Yeah, they tried the,
A
-- one of them is where you just take whatever's already standard and you give it some sort of a weird metric number like six point two eight seven instead of six millimeter.
B
Yeah, yeah, direct conversion.
A
I, I don't know. Uh.
B
I think they just ought to, you know, start, uh, just go all the way on new products introduced or whatever, you know, start your packaging, go to liters instead of quarts, and you know, people if they have to are going to learn to think that way.