B
But appealing, you know, and continuing to appeal, like four or five or six times. To have convictions overturned and then they have to be retried and all that. It's such a waste of time and energy and money. And it, it just, that's what keeps, that's what is keeping all the, the, you know, the criminals in a position of being able to be released all the time, like this.
A
Right. Do you feel like there's any certain type of crime that this should be the results, they should be consequences of capital punishment, or, or,
B
Oh.
A
are there some murders committed that you think leniency should be shown.
B
Well, I guess there's extenuating circumstances to anything like that. Uh, you know, like I, I could see, uh, a first time offender being, you know, maybe, MUMBLEx in a, in a robbery situation, trying to hold up a store and getting scared and, you know, firing a gun and accidently killing someone.
A
Uh-huh.