A
Uh-huh.
B
because there's, I mean there's like, it's like there's no hope, you know, like what Hitler did, you know. You know, like if you were going to put on trial you get to live the rest of your life, but where.
A
True, yeah, uh-huh.
B
You know, and so, um, the thing is, is that once you've done something wrong, which is natio-,
B
you know, internationally recognized, then you're going to try to get out of it and the, there's no way, you know.
A
Yeah, true.