A
and just the smaller groups of people.
B
It did.
A
And I think since then is, is when a lot of the women's roles have started to change.
B
It did and some of the other stuff that, um, I think that changed it, you, uh, when I first got out of college fifteen years ago, they were always saying well, if you, if you were assertive you were a libber, or you were aggressive not assertive and independent.
A
Uh-huh.
B
And in terms of the corporate community, I've seen a big change in terms of men finally being quote, unquote, used to women,