A
-- and they, and they compared to the son's, that he was making now. And even though the son was probably more successful, you know, higher up in the, the management ladder --
B
Right.
A
-- uh, his, he was actually making less money --
B
Um.
A
-- when you co-, when you go by costs of living.
B
Right, uh-huh. And it's depending on where you live, though, too.