A
Okay, you're, you're certainly in the majority --
A
-- uh, at least in this country.
B
Yes.
A
Uh, we are, I guess, the only one of the major Western nations currently with capital punishment.
B
I know they use it very, um, they do not have it in Europe, as I understand.
A
No, at least not in Western Europe. Probably not in Eastern Europe these days either. Um, there are many reasons for it, but they, they certainly have lower crime rates and lower murder rates.