A
I suspect it's probably some crazy man like Saddam Hussein --
B
Right.
A
-- who's our biggest threat, but, um, I wonder if they're, I wonder how much of a threat they are. I agree with you that, that they'll always be somewhat of a threat given that they have, that there's just, it's just so big, and there's just so much military machine there.
B
Uh-huh, and, and it's recognized that the two great powers --
A
Right.
B
-- are us and them, and, and the great powers are always pitted against each other.