B
Not knowing, you know, exactly what things are, from, from murder on up to like tax stuff, you know.
A
Yeah. Because I find that, uh, I've been on a few juries and, uh, as a say, I, I tend to be around, uh, civil cases because I've been an expert witness some, and, uh, many matters are so complicated that it's so hard to, uh, come up with the fair value, uh, or the fair sentence and one thing that you get if you have some expertise is, uh, you know the range of, of possible values or terms or, you know, how heinous was the crime.
B
Right.
A
Uh, that, uh, when I only do something one, two or three times I'm hardly an expert on it, and most juries over a period of five or ten years you might sit on three.
B
Yeah and,
A
And so how do you relate as to whether this particular armed robbery was a, you know, worth five years or twenty-five.