A
Exactly.
B
So to me if somebody has life, you know, beyond a reasonable doubt they should, that should be it.
A
A life for a life.
B
You know particularly for some of these really, I mean, there are so many just major, major serial murders, it's not just like one instance, or something, it's just, uh, horrifying, some of the murders that go on.
A
The old Charles Manson case. I mean the guy is really,
B
Yeah, an, yeah, there's just everyday you hear on the news of another one like that.