B
Right. I think most people, uh, don't want money, um, it's been my experience, most people want, uh, to feel like they're participating in something that, uh, that is not a drudgery, you know, that they --
A
Uh-huh,.
B
-- enjoy, and that they can get some benefits out of.
A
And it's a contribution.
B
Right.
A
Well, Bill, uh, that idea fits me exactly. I just retired from, uh, the university here, and that's been the goal in my life, was to contribute and, to the work that I was doing in my research, and that's what made me happy, and, uh, that's the type of goal I think most people ought to look for, and I'm sure a lot of them don't. You can't stand in front of a counter and do that kind of stuff all day and feel like that you're contributing something to a scientific level of knowledge or so forth.