A
Well, I was pretty young. I was, uh, I had never intended to do it and I was, uh, uh, given the opportunity after I'd started a management consulting firm to teach in, in, uh, uh, one of the business schools in the California State University system.
B
Uh-huh.
A
At any rate, uh, the topic is fascinating because one of the things I've done for the past few years is, uh, research the problem from the point of view of, uh, uh, what appears to be working best and how you can explain it theoretically.
B
Uh-huh.
A
You may be familiar with cooperative learning. Have you ever,
B
Well you can, you can tell me a little bit more about it because I don't think we did that in Utah.