A
Okay. Well like I was saying, Burlington's crime, it doesn't involve children and, what you see on the T V -s from, you know, in Washington and New York. So what I believe the people want, the subject is, is big city crime, which is something that I don't have any first hand experiences about, but I have, you know, concerns, and --
B
Uh-huh.
A
-- I have a few ideas of, um, how to combat it. I mean, I don't, I don't think, ideally, you know, you need money to do everything so --
B
Uh-huh.
A
-- That's one thing that, that's, that's crime that you can't fight it if you need that money. So.
B
Right, yeah, well, when, uh, we lived in San Antonio, I grew up around San Antonio, and it's always been a very large, uh, city, and increasingly growing. It's has kind of the split population. Um, there's a lot of retired military, uh, individuals that live there, and then there's a very large Hispanic population there. And the one thing that we noticed that over the years has gotten worse and worse is Hispanic, uh, gang crime in the city --