B
Right. Besides the fact that how much interest you pay and then this ...
A
Right, and people don't see that either.
B
Yeah, this thing that you thought you got on sale, by the time you get done paying with that with all the finance charges because you pay it off over a long period of time, you've spent a heck of a lot of money on that thing.
A
Right. The only one that we, we have that we kept was the Discover card,
B
Uh-huh.
A
and it pays you to use it.