A
with them, and, um, but it's hard for him on Saturdays. He, he wants,
B
With all the yard work and things like that.
A
Right, he wants to run out and get things done, and so, um, I try to say, well, why don't you go fly kites or why don't you --
B
Uh-huh.
A
-- do something. And if I have something in mind, then he, he remembers that,
B
Uh-huh.