B
But when I've got to work to pay my dues and your dues --
A
Yeah.
B
-- then I don't like you very much anymore.
A
Yeah. Well, I, the cost is something but it's, but I think it's relatively unimportant compared to what's the most effective way of,
B
.
A
dealing with crime and I guess I would like, I don't know, the European countries certainly, uh, none of them have capital punishment and they --