B
Um --
A
Magic?
B
-- well, I, well, I am sorry that he has the virus. I, um, I don't know, I don't, I think it's very strange that the media hasn't, um, questioned him more strongly to, about gay sex or intravenous drugs or anything like that, as they probably would for a lot of other people.
A
Do you think he's the hero that he's being called by a bunch of other, a bunch of the media?
B
Um, well, not, not really, though I mean, I think he's probably doing the right thing for a man in his position, but I don't think it's anything exceptional that he's doing. It's what many people have done already, who were just less famous.
A
You know, I took advantage of the opportunity when, you know, he came out. I talked to my kids about it, you know --