A
Uh-huh. Uh, I, I tend to agree with you, uh, I've changed my views over, uh, e-, even within the last few years, uh, to be honest. Uh, uh, when I was in coll-, when I was an undergraduate, I was a member of Amnesty International --
B
Uh-huh.
A
-- and, uh, and, of course, at that time, you know, I thought, uh, uh, it was stupid to kill anybody for, uh, you know, that the eye for an eye was a stupid argument.
B
Right.
A
But the, uh, the more, now I live in downtown Dallas, and I, uh, --
B
Right.