B
Yeah, exactly, exactly and, uh, um, so, gee, I lost my train of thought here. But, uh, um, so, okay so I can't say whether that, that I'm pro Israel or anti Israel. I mean, I'd like to see them resolve something in that situation and get some stability in the region and looks uh, that the joining of forces for this, uh, uh, Desert Shield and Desert Storm thing ended up being a positive thing.
A
It is a positive thing, um, however, uh, every time an organization such as the P L O says well we'll see if we can work with Israel, then, uh, they get embarrassed some, every few months by documents that reveal that their ultimate purpose is to totally eliminate them.
B
Right.
A
And so you, you basically have, uh, mutually exclusive interests, either Israel is going to occupy the area, or the Arabs are going to occupy the area and I'm just not sure that, that there's going to be any easy permanent solution.
B
Yeah, somebody's going to, and I think that's the problem the P L O has is that when they, whenever one group of them decides that they're going to negotiate, or they're going to do something, they're going to try to make some peace, but, uh, the end result is that they, there so many factions of them and, uh, some more violent than others, some with a certain agenda different than the others, or they split, they end up being, becoming divisive themselves.
A
Exactly.