A
But in some ways I think we are expected to do it all. You're almost looked down upon if you don't try to do all of these things and --
B
Right.
A
-- that's where the problem is really.
B
Yeah, yeah, I have little children, four and one, and I decided that it was very important to me to stay home.
A
Uh-huh.
B
Uh, and when I, I, I happen to, you know be, I'm very active with, uh, people, other people with children my age and most of us do tend to stay home, but when I run into people that, you know, just have recently had babies or have very young children and are working full time, I, there's almost a, uh, friction between us.