A
Right.
B
But, he's, uh, he certainly is a good example, uh, for the kids.
A
That's right.
B
You know, you like to have someone like that you could point to say, see what a fine man, that, he is.
A
You know, some of the, like, uh, Ivan Rodriguez wasn't even born when, when, uh, Nolan Ryan started pitching.
B
That's right.