B
Uh-huh.
A
-- for, for conven-,
B
I'd say, do-, you know, have one with, you know --
A
a convenience,
B
-- at least a thousand dollar credit limit or something.
A
Yeah, and the idea that, you know, if he got in trouble, there's some, some ways of getting out, and that he doesn't have to carry cash. The, uh, I, I like the idea of credit cards that, uh, I don't, I don't, I don't carry cash around, and, and, uh, I don't even carry checks around. I let my wife take the checkbook, and she writes the checks, and I record them. So it's, uh, it's, uh, it's, but it's interesting that, uh, the people that can, that can, uh, the amounts of money you can run up wi-, on, on credit cards, and, uh, I, I had recently had some dealings with a fellow that they had run up, he was making, oh, considered a modest salary for an engineer, and he had run up, uh, more than a years's salary in, in various debts to, and he wound up declaring bankruptcy but there, it, it's hard to believe that you'd run up twenty, thirty thousand dollars of, uh, well, it was a combination of things --