B
Yeah.
A
-- you know? I'm not saying innocent person, let's say someone wrote a hot check, for instance. You know, it seems like when they go to prison, it, they really seem like it's a rough time for them --
B
Uh-huh.
A
he's just there to serve his time, and get back out on the street.
B
And, and be paroled, and --
A
Yeah.