B
It's like, let's see if we can get her to run up her bills.
A
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B
But it's hard, I mean, it's, it's tempting when you see something to say, `` Well, I'll just charge it. '' And sometimes I'll do that, but usually I, I will try to pay everything off the next month or --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- the ones that usually have an outstanding balance all the time, I'll, I'll pay more than the minimum payment.
A
Uh-huh.