B
-- surface materials on the pads is so good.
A
Exactly, so I, you know, I just did it anyway. I like to, I like to stay up on it. You know, like I just kind of stay up on it and then if you go and like, just about any point, any you know point in time and pull my dip stick and pull it out and look at the oil, the oil is you might say, uh, a white golden brown. You know, it's not dirty. I, I, I keep it that way because that's, that is the key to the longevity.
B
Right. Well --
A
So, so how,
B
-- it sounds like you've had some good experiences with that --
A
Uh-huh.