B
So you don't think necessarily they don't have a complete grasp yet,
A
No.
B
or whether MUMBLEx.
A
I, I don't think they do. I don't think how, I don't think how they could find that big, how much was really lost or how much they were going to lose, because there still are some S and Ls still open.
B
Uh-huh.
A
And it's, it's very possible for them to go down in the future because of this.