B
-- yeah, but, see, nobody remembers him as a loser --
A
I know.
B
-- because he's too, he's too far, he's far too much of a gentleman and a, and a practicing Christian to, uh --
A
Oh, yeah.
B
-- to ever be thought of as anything but a lo-, you know, but a winner.
A
Yeah, he's a, he's a winner in anyone's book --