B
You're not seeing, you know, looking at T I, you see them in management, but you're not seeing them up there as V P -s.
A
Right.
B
And I have a sister that's an attorney in Oklahoma City, and I know the company that she was with, uh, the women didn't h-, have near the positions, the levels that the men attorneys had.
A
Right.
B
And were not, uh, given the same respect.
A
I agree with that. I, I think you do see more and more women out there in politics, too, as mayors --