B
Uh-huh. And y-, you want people out of prison and you want people to get jobs and,
A
Uh-huh.
B
and live happy lives. But they can't just walk out of prison and do that. They can't just --
A
That's right.
B
-- walk out of prison and say, okay, I'm going to go a different route.
A
That's right.