B
Yes.
A
-- or, uh, you know, in, in helping to maybe, uh, get some legislation passed to, to have women have more rights. I think still, even with that whole, um, thing with Judge Thomas and, and, uh, you, you still felt like the woman was the one that you would maybe discredit first before the man or something the way they had the trial and --
B
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
A
-- uh, I just think that it's, it's still going to take another generation or so before, before the women really, could really feel that they're really equal in the business world and that they work just as hard or harder.
B
Right, right.
A
Uh, but it's still, uh, going from, from homemakers into, uh, corporate leaders is still a big step.