B
Oh, and it's, it's frustrating, I just, I find I have to get the right kinds, though, or it's not comfortable --
A
Yeah.
B
-- they, it, it works best if they have pleats in the front --
A
Right, yeah.
B
-- and, uh, they have to, my waist is kind of small compared to the hips, so it has to be not the straight up and down levis kind.
A
Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean. Well,