B
Right.
A
Uh, and, you know, it certainly doesn't seem to be a deterrent. Uh, for one thing because it's used so infrequently and for another thing because I honestly don't think the people that are committing the c-, crimes that would be eligible, you know, really care.
B
Well, that's, committing them mostly is, you know, either crimes of passion or at the moment or they think they're not going to get caught or,
A
Right, I mean, it's kind of like the AIDS phenomenon, you know, I'm invulnerable, I don't need to care about this. You know, I, I, I'm --
B
Yeah, b-,
A
-- never going to get caught.