A
-- well, we aren't getting away from that, which is not right.
B
Right. I think it's neat. I think, uh, you learn a lot from them --
A
Oh, yeah.
B
-- from all their experiences, and, and that's one of my favorite things to do is sit around and listen to their stories.
A
Oh, right, right.
B
I think that's neat, because they really have a lot of good i-, insights --