A
Yes. Um I guess my initial view is our tax burden hasn't gone down in recent years despite, our total tax burden, despite tax cuts --
B
Uh-huh.
A
-- but among industrialized nations we have one of the lowest in, in the world, and in MUMBLEx of the matter, you get what you pay for, if we're going to have national health insurance, which seems likely, it's necessarily going to involve more taxes. Uh, I suspect, I take the view that cutting income tax rates has been good for the, the economy, that most other countries have a higher share of the tax burden in various kinds of sales taxes, uh, energy taxes, particularly, and that to the extent we need to raise more taxes, that's the direction we should look.
B
Right. Well, I guess I kind of have mixed feelings. Um, you know, you always sit there and out of each pay check so much comes out of it, and you wonder, you know, where's it all going --
A
Where's it all going?
B
-- and we have such a huge, uh, national deficit, and, and I guess a lot of times there's questions wondering well, if it's doing a whole lot of good. I know there's a lot of social programs out there that need help. But you kind of always wonder, well where's, where's the money going?.