A
Well, the people I know who have served have said that usually what ends up happening is that, you know, after initially finding out where people stand, that the whole deliberation usually results, if there is a, you know, something like a nine, three or, or more severe and, and the people in the majority trying to convince the minority that they're right --
B
Uh-huh.
A
-- and in fact, I'm not sure that that's any more, uh, liable to get rid of the reasonable doubt than, than anything else.
B
Well, the, the one thing that I know does seem to happen from people I've talked to on this, is that in the situation you just said where it's nine to three, or some such number, that there's, an effect starts being that there's starts being a lot of peer pressure --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- going on and that that, uh, peer pressure, and in some cases if it's a long trial, the desire of people to get out of there and not be stuck in there for a very long time, that people are changing their minds for the wrong reasons.