A
Uh-huh.
B
-- right, I mean, you don't expect to make any money out of it. You know, maybe you gain a little bit of local fame, but, but it's, uh, you put in a lot of work in exchange for that.
A
Right.
B
And I don't have the feeling that national level politicians are, are at all like that.
A
No. They listen to wherever the money is.
B
Yeah. And, uh, you know, I think that, that, that the problem with having, you know, junior people coming in all the time is that you end up kind of wasting a lot of time with, uh, you know, with in, inept politicians --