A
-- and so we were taught, you know, kind of at a, a good age, ten and eleven and twelve, to sit down with a kid and say okay, if you're going to learn how to shoot a gun, you're going to learn how to do it correctly and you're going to learn how to have safeguards and --
B
Uh-huh.
A
-- and know how to protect yourself but yet have this,
A
training so that kids aren't, you know, they have to have a certain respect for it.
B
Right. Well I think, I mean we, I grew up in a family and, and my father had two guns --
A
Uh-huh.