A
-- uh, I just think that it's, it's still going to take another generation or so before, before the women really, could really feel that they're really equal in the business world and that they work just as hard or harder.
B
Right, right.
A
Uh, but it's still, uh, going from, from homemakers into, uh, corporate leaders is still a big step.
B
Right, I also think that, uh, uh, women as homemakers are beginning to get more respect than they used to be. Used to be people would say, do you work, and you'd say, no, I work in the home and --
A
Right.
B
-- it was, it was, then it was almost like a put down, particularly, particularly even by women in the work force. But, I think now, I think people are realizing that the roles women play in the home are very, very important.