A
Uh-huh.
B
-- so they're on the different part of the cycle of the U S. The U S used, you know, all the air pollution stuff and air polluting technologies to get where it is today.
A
Right. And that's one of the arguments that the Third World countries have been using is, that basically they don't want to have to pay for our mistakes if, if that makes any sense. Uh, in terms of,
B
Or, or they want the right to make the same mistakes themselves to bootstrap them up to the way, where we --
A
Exactly.
B
-- got to.