A
Right.
B
But, uh, as, you know, for the rest of that group, no not really. Uh, you know, and, and generally when I was growing up a lot of those people, the only time I ever saw them was at the reunion, so, uh --
A
Right, right.
B
-- you do not really feel that that really close to them.
A
Right. In my, my, uh, father's family, we get together every year at a different location, either Dallas or Oklahoma City. They had chosen Santa Barbara, California for this summer and, and did not get enough people that were willing to go that far,
B
Uh-huh.