A
-- and where the average savings rate is something like four percent in this country and fifteen percent in, uh, Germany and Japan. Uh,
B
Well, it's a lot easier to, to save it when you don't get your hands on it first.
A
Right. When you have the, when you have the, uh, the economy to scale and everything that a large corporation has, and you can, uh, offer some incentive and if the government goes along by not taxing it when you put it aside --
B
Right.
A
-- you can really build up, uh, the savings and the, that you wouldn't otherwise do and,
B
Uh, what about, what about, uh, lesser, uh, benefits perhaps for you but for, for the women in the, in the corporation. For example, uh, oh,