A
That could very well be and,
B
and he said it almost back, I think it backfired.
A
So he's developing his, his, uh, internal instincts right now. That's good because --
B
So.
A
-- I mean I'm sure what he said was true, that, uh, you, well actually that's one of the reasons I went to MUMBLEx, Kenyon, he we-, he made a good choice. I went, I, well MUMBLEx I was supposed to, but I spent a year in Vermont, my freshman year, it was just too far away, it was too different --
B
Uh-huh.