A
They're talking about, uh, federal government, aren't they?
B
I'm sure, well, actually probably any government, but --
A
Yeah.
B
-- the federal one's the big one. So, uh, so what do you, what do you think in the short term we should be doing to, to improve it?
A
Well, I saw a program on, uh, recently, and, and it said every time they cut, you know, like fifty-five million dollars on a certain thing, then they brag about how much money they cut, and then they go and spend that money somewhere else --
B
Right.