B
And, and yet even he was a, a consummate politician in the sense that, uh, not only did he, uh, fail in business twice with bankruptcy and failure --
A
Uh-huh, sure.
B
-- but he lost some eighteen elections before he finally won one.
A
Uh-huh.
B
And the first d-, and the first and only election he won was, uh, the presidency.
A
Yeah.