A
Oh yeah?
B
-- Charles D. Gibbons is the guy who runs some ads on light night T V and he's got seminars you can go to, and they try to hook you into his organization, which costs about four hundred bucks. But he's got a couple of books out. One of them is called, uh, WEALTH WITHOUT RISK.
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I've heard of the book.
B
Yes, it's a very good book. It's tells you how to cut money on your taxes and on your insurance and then --
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Legally?
B
-- what to do with the money that you save.