A
I mean, what is, what effect does that have on him running for president. Do you know what I mean?
B
Yeah, yeah.
A
It's all so secretive, see we really don't see the,
B
That's right.
A
the true person anyway.
B
I think that's, that's having a big effect on how poorly that the country is being run, is that, um, the, the election, the people that want to get elected are turning it into a popularity contest by advertising the things that,