B
Right, right.
A
-- and so. Uh -- -- in fact, you, you could easily do that now, listen to, turn on a talk show up there -- -- and see if there, there's got to be some gardening folks --
B
Yes, but,
A
-- on the radio that says when to put your grass in, and, and what kind of grass to grow up in Virginia and everything, so I, uh, for someone who doesn't garden, I'd say, that, that's my biggest recommendation is to,
B
Uh-huh, so you enjoy gardening?
A
Oh, yeah, yeah. I like it a lot, uh --