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And what we have here in Burlington, which it doesn't cost a lot of money, but they have a kids council --
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-- that they have all these after school activities for kids.
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They set up kids with elderly people, in the winter time they shovel their snow. They have a big brother, big sister program. They have bottle drives, they have cleanup outings. And they have also organized fun activities like gyms, going to the beach, and playing volleyball at the beach in the summer, and they have gyms open. And it seems that the younger you can get them and get them involved with programs -- -- after school, you might keep them --