B
I think the general public is so overwhelmed by things right now, so many different things coming in so many different directions that they've just decided to become apathetic towards it all because they realize there's abs-, or they think that there's absolutely nothing they can do about it.
A
Yeah, as far as steps to reduce crime, if it's, uh, crimes like we're just been discussing, obviously we, we need more prisons and more corrective facilities to put these people in --
B
Yeah.
A
-- to, uh, take them off the streets, but I don't think that's going to happen because, just like you said, and our state's a good example, your state's a good example and, it's just not going to happen. As far as the murderers, and people that commit rape and things like that, I'm not sure what's right, but I know it, it's not right to put them in there and let them live for years and years and leers, w-, years before you do execute them or whatever because it's, has to be very costly to feed a prisoner and to --
B
Yeah.
A
-- clothe him and, you know, to, I'm sure he gets to watch a lot of T V and I'm sure they have, uh, exercise facilities and movies and, and everything else, you know, they can have a good time in.