A
They really are.
B
-- they, they've improved,
B
the performance and the suspension such that they're actually a lot of fun to drive.
A
Really.
B
It's not like driving a, a Winnebago or something.
A
Oh, no. No, no. See, I'm not into station wagons and vans and things that people are really buying now and they go isn't that a nice van and I go, um.