B
Yeah, because, well, th-, see the jury is dealing with the seriousness of the crime,
A
Uh-huh.
B
the jury gets to see the whole trial, as does the judge, but you know, if, if they figure there's maybe litigating circumstances, or something like that whereas maybe the judge does, just doesn't care, you committed this crime so I'm just going to throw the book at you.
A
Uh-huh.
B
Whereas the jury may have a little, shall we say, sympathy, you know, he did this, but, you know, why did he do this,
A
Yeah, in some,