A
Uh-huh.
B
And, of course, I'm not perfectly happy about not having a job.
A
Right.
B
So, how do you feel?
A
Well, I'm a little bit ambivalent. The problem with, uh, and I think one of the problems with immigration policy is like any other political problem is that people are not willing to discuss it, uh, in, in terms of what, uh, really is driving it. They're not willing to tell the truth. The same way with, uh, issues of, uh, race and things like that. I mean right now, uh, I believe there are two policies that, uh, that the government uses to modulate immigration. Three actually. One is at the high end, uh, they always want to be able to, uh, do some brain draining. They always like to be able to attract the, uh, Einsteins or the Professor Chou or, you know.
B
Right.