A
-- on the radio that says when to put your grass in, and, and what kind of grass to grow up in Virginia and everything, so I, uh, for someone who doesn't garden, I'd say, that, that's my biggest recommendation is to,
B
Uh-huh, so you enjoy gardening?
A
Oh, yeah, yeah. I like it a lot, uh --
B
Uh-huh.
A
-- uh, it's a lot of work. I'm an engineer, I'm, I'm with T I. You, are you with T I up there or,
B
No, no, I'm with a defense contractor.