B
-- and, oh, fried foods galore. And then gradually they started switching over to, uh, plain rice, uh, no gravy.
A
That's amazing.
B
It's just, it really is. They, uh, they're actually, they actually, uh, uh, led us through it, versus, uh, us teaching them, you know, the, uh, the finer points. But my mother has really high cholesterol, so it was --
A
Yeah.
B
-- one of the reasons which started them off. And they started doing this, like in the early, or in about the middle seventies.
A
Well, that's amazing,