A
I, I do some sewing, mostly out of necessity. Um, I'm making drapes for my house, just because I'm,
B
Oh, boy, that's hard sewing.
A
Yeah, well, it isn't and it is. It is, you know, actually the sewing isn't the hard part, it's just being able to lay out the material and measure it --
B
Measure it and get it to,
A
-- because you need so much room.
B
Well, if it, it depends on how elaborate you get it. If you get pleats and all kinds of,