B
Uh-huh.
A
And seems to me that that's, I think that's the way it's done now. Uh, at least,
B
.
A
my understanding of the law which isn't very good.
B
Uh-huh.
A
Uh, it seems to me that the judge does it and I, I think that's probably all right in that they, you know, maybe know what the, the norm is --