B
Well I grew up in Los Angeles.
A
Okay, well you see it, saw it out there then, too.
B
And, uh, in fact, I drove a cab when I was a graduate student so I, I knew, uh, the Hispanic part of L A pretty well.
A
Uh-huh.
B
And certainly, you know, knew that problem, knew, you know, knew about apartment houses that would have eight or ten or twelve people living in them, sleeping in the same bed in shifts and all that.
A
Yeah.