B
Uh-huh.
A
-- uh, murder.
B
Right.
A
So you've come to a definite opinion on it now?
B
Well, I, I've it, it seems like it's gone, gotten carried away, um, and I, I do find it hard to dr, know where to draw a line, and so if I had to draw a line, I'd say just no capital punishment. I mean, I don't, I don't, I don't see that it accomplishes a whole lot, whereas I do think that convicting people and, and incarcerating them for a long time, if that could be improved upon, that would have more impact, I think.
A
Yeah. You kind of hate to,