B
Right they, sit on the fence, so. Well, oh, I talked about this the other day, they won't say yes and they won't say no to just certain issues just because they don't know what the public wants, or the public's split on it.
A
That's true, that's true.
B
Yeah.
A
I often, I mean, that, that, like you say, that's another discussion, but I have had that discussion before as well. Where you weren't, I, I wonder about the po-, politics of it all, so.
B
Right, because most of it is politics,
A
Yeah.