A
We have one of those ladders. We are just not willing to get up that high.
B
Oh, yeah.
B
A friend of mine that lives out in your neighborhood, he has done his house and that is what he, I was out there last week and he has finished everything except the chimney.
A
Well, we did too. We did it in the fall and it, it's just too high. It is really scary, but --
B
Yeah.
A
-- and the only thing I would consider doing, a professional, maybe doing that, but it other than doing our own work I prefer it to a professional.