B
Yeah, you can appeal now in North Carolina for almost a period of twenty years.
A
Can you really?
B
Yeah, you can just keep going around and around and around the merry go round until you, I think the, I think it's, uh, the average is eight to ten years to get in to the North Carolina Supreme Court --
A
God.
B
-- and then, uh, after that it goes to the Supreme Court of the United States and that usually takes another four to six years.
A
Oh, I know.