A
But so far, I've been able to, we've been able to pay it off every time so,
B
Well, that's good. I'm looking, right now I'm k-, kind of looking for a Visa that has a lower interest rate. It seems that some of them have gotten higher --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- and, uh, I saw on T V, they had a program on, uh, credit cards and they're supposed to, I don't know if it was Tennessee or Arkansas or some, some other state had a Visa card that was the lowest one in the country. And I --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- didn't write it down at the time and then I went and looked and, to see what my visa was and I think it's eighteen percent or something --