A
I, I, I've been trying to get people at five thirty and six thirty in the evening and I thought, well, I'm not having any luck, I'll try the middle of the afternoon.
B
Well, I'm, I'm happy we got through.
A
I am, too. Well, do you have any, uh, opinion on the subject?
B
Well, I'm, I'm especially interested with what, what's happening in the Soviet Union, uh, the, the move to, uh --
A
Democracy.
B
-- the, the, the, Ukraine's vote to, uh, basically to secede and set itself up independently --