B
That, that's, that's so.
A
-- and you can't find that in all sports.
B
Yeah, that's absolutely right, and you can gain a lot of ground doing that, too, if you, if, you know, you gets, you get in a rut if you do play a lot but you play with the same people, you, you aren't going to learn anything.
A
Yeah,
B
After a short period, once you learn everything they've got to offer, then --
A
Yeah, you need to,