A
They've always been with us.
B
I mean, there's, there's been a lot of, uh, and I used to think that this whole argument was completely bogus, but then, the --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- more I thought about it, the more sense it made, is that, uh, alcohol is as bad a drug as anything else.
A
Uh-huh.
B
Uh, and prohibition didn't stop it and didn't do anything really --