A
and it takes some drastic steps at this point. And I think, personally, the drastic step has to be that, um, that you can't work if you continue taking drugs.
B
Yeah.
A
I mean, it's as simple as that. I mean, make it so,
B
Make it difficult enough.
A
Well, make it, uh, ma-, not necessarily difficult, but make it so that it's not glamorous.
B
Yeah, yeah.