B
Uh-huh.
A
And yet, I don't think we've ever quite decided who's really supposed to pay for it.
B
Well, that's the thing, you know, uh, unfortunately the ones that currently pay and pay the premiums for health insurance are, are paying for the people that don't have health insurance.
A
Which is why people are talking about, we ought to just admit it perhaps --
B
Yeah.
A
-- and then try and somehow subsidize it in a way that's more fair.