A
I mean, it's worked successfully in Europe.
B
Uh-huh.
A
I've heard all these stories about, I travel extensively and spend, uh, maybe half a year in Europe every year,
B
Oh.
A
and I find that the health care programs there, uh, are administered with, uh, at least people I talk to, with, uh, a great deal of integrity, and, uh, people don't seem to be reluctant to use them to any degree.
B
Yeah.