A
Well, well, they still have to pay it but they buy their own instead of going through the state.
B
Oh, I see.
A
So apparently it costs less that way.
B
Uh-huh, uh-huh. I suppose that whenever companies can avoid, um, benefits, it's to the, to, to the benefit of the company --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- and at least, you know, financially in the short run, but I would think they would get a much greater turnover and that people would be dissatisfied