B
You know, I'm sorry, but I don't believe in them turning a good, uh, uh, a new leaf --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- unless they have the Lord that has done that to them.
A
Right.
B
And, uh, without the Lord, they can't do it.
A
Yeah, and it's not very likely. I mean, it seems like th-,