A
or, or the Texaco Pennzoil problem,
B
Uh-huh.
A
uh, is ridiculous for people just taken off the street to understand, and,
B
Right.
A
really should have some better way where people who understand both the circumstances and the complex issues involved, should handle cases like that.
B
Yeah, you know, some MUMBLEx I don't, you always have the option, now in criminal I guess you always have a jury, but in civil cases you have the option of whether you want a jury or not.