B
Mainly because everyone makes them, you know.
A
Yeah.
B
You can take your choice of how expensive you want it to be.
A
Yeah. And we, we do a lot of, uh, driving. We do a lot of traveling.
B
Uh-huh.
A
By car. And so that's the only time that the, that the, uh, conversion van came in handy. But it really didn't cause our, our kids are still little.