B
Uh-huh.
A
-- but, uh, the rest of the time I've been an Avon lady and a MUMBLEx lady.
B
Was that when you were, um, well, those have its pluses and minuses, too. I've been a consultant recently --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- and so I don't have any benefits at all and,
A
Uh-huh, and you have to take care of any benefits you want yourself, yeah.