B
--, so I mostly depend on the radio, you know, on the way to work. I like, I like to listen to national public radio, uh, all things considered.
A
Yes, great show.
B
Yeah, and I like to listen to that and catch, you know, I don't get, I don't get a lot of, uh, sometimes I don't get the current events, you know. Because that show kind of has feature stories that might not directly deal with, uh, you know, some important issue on the day. But,
A
Yeah, so, so the real, the real current news and, the hard news --
B
Yeah.
A
-- is, is not, there is not really enough of it there.