B
Uh-huh.
A
-- uh, it's a lot of work. I'm an engineer, I'm, I'm with T I. You, are you with T I up there or,
B
No, no, I'm with a defense contractor.
A
Okay. Uh, where was, oh, yeah, no, I, I like it, I, uh, I always know that why I'm not a farmer when I garden though,
A
I mean, it is dog work, and it is tough --
B
Uh-huh, uh-huh.