B
We were, before we started doing that kind of a thing, we were, uh, spending, uh, money for things that, you know, we kind of tended to eat out a bit more --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- than we should have,
A
.
B
and it was easy to, uh, let things get out of hand. We thought it, uh, thought it to be really helpful. We have gotten some of our loans paid off really --
A
Yeah.