A
What, in Texas, was that when, you,
B
No, I'm talking about national campaigns.
A
That's, that's true.
B
Yeah. Uh, even when John Kennedy was elected, there were so many strikes against him, but there were people who believed he could make a difference.
A
Right.
B
Now, that's not to say what has transpired or what really was, I'm saying --