A
It, it sure does. And -- -- I think it, it is reflecting. Like you said I think society as a whole, uh, you can't expect, uh, when we have T V -s and we have things that are kind of bombarded at us for, uh, you know, immorality and this and this and this, that we can expect somebody to come off that's going to be clean, totally clean.
B
Right.
A
And come into government. Uh, but down the line it does hurt. I mean when somebody's corrupt and somebody's doing something, it's, uh, you know, it does hurt t-, each individual of the society when you find out that somebody's done something or the overdraft policy or, you know, the other things that have occurred, so, uh,
B
Well, what is, see the thing is, is when a lot of things become acceptable practice --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- uh, it's hard to discern the bor-, what has become muddy as to what is ethical and what is not ethical. And then --