A
Yeah.
B
don't really care for today's rock and roll too much.
A
Well, for example, I used to like old Phil Collins.
B
Right. Yes, definitely. I agree.
A
And, and, then what happened was that Phil Collins said, hey I can make money, a lot of money doing this, and then he came out with, uh, see, for example, his, his record like, No Jacket Required.
B
Uh-huh.