A
-- they, they're caught dead to rights. I, I just think that that's, they've, they've taken a life and if, they should pay for it with their life.
B
Right. When you're saying as far as the appeal, uh, procedure was concerned.
A
Yeah.
B
We just have the case, I'm, I'm sure you've probably heard of Marion Berry.
A
Uh-huh.
B
Uh, his f-, last appeal was, was denied two days before his sentence was up.