A
Right.
B
-- I have to say it really works. But, again, I was fortunate because my doctor agreed to be in it. Uh, if you've been going to a doctor for, you know, ten years or something and he elects not to join, it can be very stressful for --
A
Yes.
B
-- you know, those people.
A
That's right, yeah, I'm, I'm fairly young myself, I've only been, when I first started working which, three years ago is when I first got into full time employment --
B
Uh-huh.