B
That's right, got to keep those farmers happy.
A
You know, and, and just tremendous amounts of, you know, so much of it, is now just going to service debt or --
B
Uh-huh.
A
-- you know, is going in, into, into programs that, you know, yeah, they are, they are a fat. You know, I think the military is really fat. I think that a lot of the, the H E W services, although they're providing necessary services, have too much fat in them.
B
Right. The-, there is just way too much bureaucracy and so much of that tax money is going just to keep that bureaucracy running, keep the paper shuffling around --
A
You know, like we,