B
-- and then he gets up for this one trial, and they don't finds anything out about the facts that he's done this over and over and over again --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- and so they say, well, this is, you know, I, I don't know if they say it's the first time offense or whatever, but they give him a lighter sentence, thinking he's not a habitual criminal.
A
Or, you know, plead insanity.
B
Yeah, yeah. Well, To some extent if they would do something with some of those people. But that seems to be a good way to get off for a lot of them too.
A
Oh yes,