A
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
B
And the more you use them, the more they send them to you.
A
But each of these had an annual fee also, right.
B
Exactly. The American Express was probably the worst, um, because with the Gold card, I can't remember how much it was because I didn't even have it very long before I gave it up --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- but I know the Green card was like thirty-five, forty- five dollars a year.