A
Right. It's easier and I agree with that. That's why I --
B
Yeah.
A
-- y-, you know, what is amazing to me is now your son is already grown but you can probably empathize with this. It's amazing to me how forthcoming people are with their opinions and thoughts.
B
Right, right.
A
In terms of what to do. Uh, and I just don't think there is a day, a good daycare system. Uh, my company, I'm particularly fortunate that they have, they're in tune with that. But I've been at companies where, uh, you know, the, deci-, the, the trend is, or the definite mood is, well we made conscious decisions not to have children. You know. And in, and a couple like us building through adoption, there, it's almost radical to some people. And what you just learn to do is tune everybody else out and, uh, I respect, there are some women that I know that are divorced or on their own or in single parenting and men that they, you know, they may have the need for child care like that.
B
Uh-huh.