B
Yeah.
A
uh, that really paid off. Because when time came for him to go back to graduate school, we were in, in fairly good shape financially as far as not having any major debts. And,
B
Yeah, that's about the way it is here,
A
Yeah.
B
if it had not been for my wife, I would have probably been in debtor's prison,
B
if we had one.