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Um.
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So, they've, they've tried to do a lot of that --
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Uh-huh.
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-- and I thi, you know, there seem to be, at least in certain little pockets, and we were talking earlier about Madison --
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Uh-huh.
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-- Madison has one of the nicest, uh, bike, uh, road, uh, sharing programs of, of any city in Wisconsin --