A
Uh-huh.
B
-- that they take great pride in being able to use whatever lawn they do have to look really nice.
A
Yes, they do. I noticed that they're really putting in small back yards, because they have these, most of the houses have the alleys --
B
Uh-huh.
A
-- that run behind, and, so that really cuts into your backyard space, and. But we don't do our work here out of enjoyment so much as right now, we're just, this is, we just moved in in September, so we're just still at the point where we're talking about the necessity.
B
Right, I know. Oh, it's awful the first house. Our house in Castroville was the first one, too. And we had no idea the expense that lawns and gardening would run into --