A
Uh-huh.
B
-- uh, and from my mother's generation to my generation it's just a very, very wide, uh, it's been a big change.
A
Very much, yeah, yeah.
B
Very much, and I think you'll have to agree and --
A
Yes.
B
-- and since we were in, uh, sort of the ground level, the bra burning of the sixties,