A
Huh-uh.
B
Yeah, it's really hard too, because before they used to have, um, a lot of, it seems like the stuff that they put out now, it, I mean, I, doesn't just seem like it, I know for a fact that the, any kind of stuff that if you, wrote and asked for material, well what do you believe in, what do you believe in, they don't take any stands on anything. They kind of say, well what do you want me to believe.
A
Yeah.
B
Or they word it so that it's really hard to tell where they're standing on certain issues.
A
Well I'm not sure they're, yeah. I know how they do it.
B
Uh-huh.