A
Right, I mean, it's kind of like the AIDS phenomenon, you know, I'm invulnerable, I don't need to care about this. You know, I, I, I'm --
B
Yeah, b-,
A
-- never going to get caught.
B
Yeah, but you also have to think whether it's worthwhile on the individual basis, for example, someone like, uh, Jeffrey Dahlmer, do you want, by putting him in prison for life, there is still a possibility that he will get out again.
A
Yeah, one, one --
B
Whereas --