A
Yeah.
B
-- because I'm a mechanical engineer and I've had to work when I was designing packages for people, I mean I had to, to work both systems --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- back and forth and it was not hard and you get, you can get a CAT CAM system that can take any design you want and you can push a button and it'll convert every measurement on there --
A
Right.
B
-- you know, from one system to the other --