A
Right.
B
So, they're very, very different, but, uh, y-, kind of the same thing, our, you know, she now, lot of time spent with her, she's so busy is, uh --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- you know, going to, you know, like last night was a band concert --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- and she plays on her school volleyball team and, uh, stuff like that. But, uh, we, we still, uh, oh, like to pack up, you know, just go someplace for the day --