B
Uh-huh.
A
-- like, uh, private business has had to do it so --
B
Right.
A
-- it might have to be something that they might consider doing as a shir-, that's got to be very short term.
B
Right.
A
And the only other avenue that I can think of is, uh, looking at where they're spending the money and not so much as saying, well, we're spending too much in that area as perhaps looking at what is costing them the money. As --