A
You know, they come in that way.
B
And, to make a change, you know, you have to make a splash.
A
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
B
But, to continue in that vein, I think it got a little bit warped and off the track --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- in several areas, but I really do think that women have made a contribution --