A
Yeah.
B
Max consistently writes good books.
A
Yeah. Uh, he's a great man. I've met him several times. Uh,
B
Yes. I know him, yeah.
A
Huh.
B
But -- -- uh, there's other authors also that have uh, uh, that write good books from time to time, but not consistently put out the materials all the time. Uh, I'd say another, which is a local writer here in Plano, uh, is, uh, I'm trying to think of his name. He's with the Bible church. And that is, uh,, I see his name but I can't, I mean I see him but I can't see his name. But he, uh, he talks about, uh, he talks about a lot of different topics and,