B
He came from a poor immigrant family, and he didn't have a chance to, uh, you know, the family wasn't wealthy, so he had to do something to,
A
Do it himself.
B
put himself through school, and he did. And he was very successful.
A
Well, my parents wanted to send me to college, and I was dead set against it.
A
You know, I had wanderlust, you know.
B
Yeah.