A
Well, no, and it's, it's just not, um, it's not as stable for the kids,
B
Right.
A
and they, everybody decided to come over and talk to me right now. But, uh, it's, yeah.
B
That's how it is at our house when you're on the phone. Oh, it's open, anything goes when mom's on the phone.
A
Well, it's also important, I think, um, for my husband. I, I try to go out of my way to, to plan things that he can do with the kids because,
B
Uh-huh.