A
to help them take care of the things, if you don't have some kind of, of basic believe or something down inside of you,
B
Uh-huh.
A
then it's very difficult to, uh, have anything to turn to,
B
That's true.
A
when you got, when you've got something facing you like that.
B
I also being involved in the school system see so many of the problem children coming from their parents, um, children who will lie and cheat and you approach their parents, and their parents are constantly justify them rather then to,