A
Yes.
B
And it's getting the respect and, which is about time.
A
I think it's true. I think also people are having children at a older age --
B
Yes, very definitely.
A
-- so it's maybe like, uh, you know, you go through college and then you maybe work for a few years and then you have your first child and, uh, you know, you, you know both sides of the coin.
B
That's right.