B
That's, that's right.
A
You still have to, you know, so, but God sent us his grace and they give pardons but I believe if it's a genuine conversion, there's a genuine, and those prison people know, they know a genuine turnaround in a person's character, they see that.
B
But, yeah.
A
And, I, I worked in a prison in Fort Worth.
B
Did you?
A
Yeah, I have a degree in social work. You see it, you know the ones that have a genuine character change.