A
You're kidding.
B
But, you know at the time when the guy kept saying could you ever convict someone and do you think you'd ever know beyond a doubt and I said I can't imagine, I said if I knew beyond a doubt or if I felt beyond a doubt that he had done it, yeah, I guess I could convict him, but I can't imagine you ever making me that sure of something.
A
Right.
B
But they really did. It was, it was --
A
Really?
B
-- really amazing.