B
Uh-huh.
A
And I enjoy doing that. It's just the same old thing, it's just getting the time to do it.
B
Yeah. I've done some cross, um, cross stitch, but I never count right, and I always have to either take it out or have my picture slightly off centered --
A
Uh-huh.
B
-- or, or something. It never has worked out completely.
A
Yeah, it takes a lot of concentration. I mean, it was the type of thing, I was, I was making some little things for Christmas, and I also made a little thing for a baby gift, and, uh, I thought, Oh, I can do this while I watch T V. Wrong.