B
-- for himself,
A
-- right, and, uh, so she's been a real strong supporter of the Sandinistas and has been trying to back the U S government in that respect, and in that respect I have to agree that I think we're taking the right stance --
B
Yeah.
A
-- uh, because they were a democracy turned, uh --
B
Dictator,
A
-- yeah, right --