A
you know, so it's got big name recognition in this area, a big science school, no football team, but a big science school,
B
Yeah.
A
and technical people know that. But I don, yeah, I think you're right, you really have to think about that for the job. I went to a very small state college when I got my bachelor's, and when I, now, I was in education at first when I was looking for jobs, I was going to be a teacher, I was just a high school teacher, so most people recognized that institution because it was a teaching school sort of,
B
Yeah.
A
you know, but then when I went, um, for graduate work, you know, or for a new job, people said to me, you know, Shippensburg State, where is that, you know.
B
Yeah, yeah.