A
Uh-huh.
B
But, and I knew we had the guns in the house and, th-, the time my father was keeping them just for protection at the time --
A
Sure, yeah.
B
-- but we, it was never, my brothers, sisters nor I never, I mean none of us ever thought well let's go look at the gun or let's go get the gun MUMBLEx it was just something you knew was there --
A
Yes.
B
-- and th-, it was your father's and y-, you, that was not something you'd go and play, played with at all --