A
Let me tell you, you go without a lot of things that you wo, you know.
B
yeah, obviously we don't have any and, and I don't, I think that's part of the role reversal, is it's okay to get married and not have kids.
A
Oh yeah.
B
And I think for society for such a long time said, well, you know, you're married, now you need to sa-, have, have your family and I don't think it's been until recently that, that they had decided that two people was a family.
A
Right, right.
B
You know and,