B
Uh-huh. I was just saying that way, what they're saying is that they can't get people to turn themselves in then. And so, we have to go through a trial then to prove the person's guilty.
A
Uh-huh, and that costs money, yeah.
B
And perhaps we can and perhaps we can't and so the guy might get off.
A
Uh-huh.
B
And, uh, although usually the guys that are turning themselves in are, are guys that are, you know going to get caught anyways but,
B
There's always a few of those people that are, you know, lost their head or whatever.