A
Well, I was, I saw on a human interest story, or whatever today, there was a woman who was just being paroled and trying to make it back, she --
B
Uh-huh.
A
-- was off drugs and everything, but she said, uh, you know, in prison you can get anything. You can any drugs you want. There's, it, it's just like being outside. You know, people --
B
Really.
A
-- find ways around. And there's a power structure that you have bow to and, and, it really isn't, for some people tha, who have been there for over, and over, and over, it really isn't, uh, as bad. I mean, there's, it's not that bad of a life as it should be --
B
Yeah.