B
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A
Um, I don't really, don't really do any handicraft things like that. I used to. I used to do, like salt ornaments and things.
B
Uh-huh.
A
But that was, oh, good many, many years ago and --
B
Yeah.
A
-- I have, I really, my spare time I usually go do aerobics and read, and that's,