B
I've, I've had one myself and, uh, they're wonderful technology, but cities have three or four more than they need or three or four times the number they need. So, I think that what the market place doesn't do because of the way the system has worked and it doesn't allocate resources oftenly because there is a tendency, uh, at least there has been a tendency to drive up the price of medical care primarily because the insurance companies could pass on the bills, but it's begun to change all of that. The people paying the bills, uh, employers ultimately, have begun to squawk because they have seen their health care cost rise two hundred percent in the past ten years.
A
Yeah.
B
So, I think the evolution will be interesting. Uh, Hawaii has a system that is apparently working and, uh, it will be interesting to see how, how, uh, much more attention we pay to that. I do think though that it is inevitable primarily because of the pain, uh, that people are feeling, uh, under the circumstances. Uh, I believe that it will contribute to something that we would at this point call national health care, whether it's subsidized by the government and and operated by private insurers, uh, I don't know. I like that idea. I tend to be one of those people who believes the market place can under varied circumstances with the profit incentive work very very well. Uh, I, we would be a lot better off if we, if we, contracted our national defense to a group who rather that operated as a government entity because we would probably have much less waste.
A
See, that, that bothers me about the government see, uh, my,
B
Well that's, that's the problem with government, uh, administration of these programs and that is one of the things that we as society are going to have to deal with. Government is going to have to change in this regard.
A
Do you think that that these insurance things should be covered on a State basis or U S government basis?