B
uh, I do not think I would either.
A
-- know what we would replace it with.
B
Yeah. I know, it, uh, does seem like the, the, the, the purpose of getting people in jail so that, you know, the, the, I can not think of the word I am looking for. Anyway, the deterrent.
A
Yes.
B
For people to, to commit the cri-, uh, to not to commit the crime is sort of gone away. People have, I do not know, they just do not care any more. The benefit, I guess, of crime outweighs what the deterrent is.
A
Uh, and yet --