A
And you could get there and his office hours could, I mean he could have like a nine to eleven in the morning office hours and have forty-two people waiting to talk to him, and you still didn't get to talk to him anyway.
B
Right, yeah.
A
Well, what would be your advice to a parent of a child thinking of attending college?
B
Oh, man. I think your advice is good. Um let's see. My advice would be to pick a major before you get into college --
A
That's excellent advice.
B
-- because I, I didn't, and I took tons of classes that I didn't need to, and, um, I don't know, I just feel like I'm, it's, it's going to take me a lot longer than, and not that's always bad, but it's, I don't know, it's frustrating, I guess.