A
-- uh, that kind of, you know, retirement plans, that kind of stuff so we can kind of put aside some money that actually is better for us not to see --
B
Right.
A
-- versus when it's on the paycheck and you have to try and take out some of that money. You always find something a little extra that you'd like to get that month so, uh, long term probably is a little bit better than short term simply because, uh, it's automatically taken out. So, uh, that works out much better for us, so that's kind of how we do it anyway but,
B
And the old, uh, if you can't see it, then you can't spend it, uh, idea.
A
E-, exactly and if you can't touch it, you can't spend it either. So that kind of works out where you get into, uh, some plans that, you know, you touch it you're going to get a penalty, that kind of thing, so it leads you to kind of say well I'm not going to take it out. I'm going to keep it and, uh, keep it in there and let it grow so that someway, maybe for retirement you're going to have that money,
A
left. Let's hope anyway, so --