B
it, it takes awhile to, to get used to something, you know, if, if they have completely chain-, on the, place has completely turned that much around to where they're not, you know, not what they used to be,
A
Right.
B
uh.
A
It's, it's hard to, to know anymore if it's a, a threat one way or another because, uh, it used to be s-, so, f-, much in the past that whatever the top said the rest fell, you know, rank and file in behind it.
B
Uh-huh.
A
And now that with Gorbachev is introducing more, I guess, freedoms or expressions of freedom, it doesn't look as though, you know, everybody's following the same pattern.