B
And, and, you know, they asked him about it. Do you really need this? This is going to cost a lot of money. Oh yes we need it. But do you know that the drug agency doesn't want this?
A
Yeah.
B
And they do things that are, you know, just like the, uh,
A
Yeah, that's just an awful lot of that kind of thing going on.
B
Yeah that.
A
And the trouble is, you don't, you have so little input about it. You don't know --