A
Yes.
B
Um, and i-, i-, it, it, I think I haven't been able to do it, and, you know, what, that was one of the things I really thought I'd like to do with my children,
A
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
B
you know, again. And th-, I'm a little bit fearful of trying that just women.
A
I don't blame you.
B
You know?