A
Yeah.
B
-- they seemed like a valiant thing. You knew, you knew who was good. You knew who was bad.
A
Yeah.
B
And it was a, it was a traditional m-, the traditional battle of, kind of good versus evil, if you, you know --
A
Well you're not,
B
-- whichever way it is. But in, in the Vietnam war it seems like it was, a, a, the sides and the lines that were drawn are all confused as to who's good and who's bad and --