B
an-, and people don't care anymore either.
A
No. No.
B
People don't want to go out to vote.
A
Well, I don't think people think they can make a difference. And when you've got candidates as you do. It's candidates that have money --
B
Yep.
A
-- and it's backed by big business. And big business says well we don't care about the little person and, uh, you know, you're not going to get anymore Abe Lincolns --