A
-- some of the philosophy stuff.
B
Uh-huh. Like, let's see, and even like reading some new age things, things that I don't quite believe in, like here on my shelf I have a book called JOURNEYS OUT OF THE BODY.
A
Yeah, I think that,
B
It's all about --
A
I'm fascinated by that.
B
-- how to have out of body experiences and all that.