A
Well, there is so many chances for appeal, that it kee,
B
Oh, yeah, oh, absolutely, yeah, it goes on for years and years, and costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, taxpayer money.
A
Ye-, it's really sad.
B
Yeah.
A
I don't know, I just think, um, somehow I hoped that as a people we could be better than, than, um, expecting,
B
Yes.