A
Uh-huh, really.
B
Well, yeah, I am kind of, uh, I guess what you would call it, a project person.
A
Oh, really.
B
Yeah, and I love, like I have a shop and when things break around the house, I always try to fix them myself and so, hobby, it's, it's funny, uh, from the one stand point, it is work. But it is a hobby too, that I enjoy --
A
Yeah.
B
-- to do. To find broken,