B
Yeah.
A
I, I, I'd force them. I think that, uh, I think it would be, I think mo-, I think a lot of kids actually do a lot of work and no one just realizes it.
B
Your right, I do, too, I think they start out young, like in, uh, Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts --
A
Right, exactly.
B
-- doing s-,
A
I was a, I was a Boy Scout. As part of being a Boy Scout, you had to do, you know, projects all throughout and then to become --