B
-- or whatever the case may be and sometimes that's not real fair either, though so,
A
Well, one of the others things that gets me on, on the juries is that often in the newspaper, I, I tend to hear two things that, well, that go on. One is, you often see in the headlines the big numbers.
B
Uh-huh.
A
Uh, and many of those get overturned or get reduced in terms of sentences, or get changed --
B
Right.
A
-- by a judge or an Appeals Court and that never makes the, the press and so, when, uh, you or I as an individual gets on a jury we tend to have certain mental images of what's what because we see the headlines, uh, and we don't have, a-, again, a lot of knowledge, so we don't know what is really going on, what is, uh, really the range of sentences or awards that are, uh, are actually, uh, in the end --