A
But, uh, anyway,
B
Yeah, I try, I, I really do, I just try to stay out of debt, and I, and I use my Visa for, for as much as I can, and I pay it all off, and,
A
Sounds like you're, you're very respon, very financially responsible. It's, uh,
B
Uh-huh.
A
That's, uh, there're a lot of people who really run, my boss drives quite a ways to work, and he's got just enormous debts, and he's, but, I mean, what do you say, it's like, Shucks, Boss, I'm sure sorry you've got all that debt. Well, he's had, had two kids in college and, and this kind of thing, and that --
B
Uh-huh.